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Driving Profile: Jen
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JEN: We decided to do an RV road trip to
Nashville. And when we arrived, we actually arrived on Christmas Eve. Pretty
late at night. And we happened to have found parking right behind the Nissan
stadium, on Christmas morning, we woke up to the RV shaking.
And we feel a bomb
go off. The first thing I see across the Cumberland. Is it smoke, you see smoke
coming out and you don’t know where it’s coming from yet.
Within like 10, 15 minutes, you see like 20
cars, going over the bridge
and it was all
very sudden. My husband and I agreed, like, maybe we should. Make the most out
of this. Despite the craziness that’s going on. And apparently this was on the
news all over, despite that we didn’t know.
So we start
driving around and we ended up going to downtown Nashville. And, , we are just
about to find parking. When we had five cops pull us over, we had two cars pull
up in front of us, two cars behind us and one next.
(intro music)
BHAVNEET: Welcome back to another episode of drive
with us podcast .I’m Bhavneet.
TARANJIT: And I’m Taranjit
before we
introduced our driver for today. We have a little quick car keeping because of
the Thanksgiving holiday. Next week, there will be no episode released for next
week, but we will be resuming after the Thanksgiving holiday. So enjoy your
time off if you celebrate and we’ll see you after that.
BHAVNEET: But in the meantime, you can find extra
content on our, Instagram at drive with us podcast, where we share our own
crazy driving experiences, reels of the crazy things that we see on the road
and much more.
TARANJIT: And now let’s meet today’s driver Jen
Amos. Jen is an award-winning podcaster online entrepreneur and a season three
contestant on a reality podcast competition.
America’s next top podcaster. She recently
moved from San Diego, California. Her home of 20 plus years to Virginia Beach
with her husband and fur baby today, she dived into being suspected as a
Tennessee RV bomber racing on the Olympic Parkway. And she had many more crazy
driving experiences with us.
Let’s meet Jen.
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BHAVNEET: Welcome Jen to Drive With Us Podcast.
Thank you so much for joining us today.
JEN: yeah. Bhavneet. And Taranjit thank you
both so much for having me. I know this has been a long time coming for months
now, and so I’m just glad that you both were flexible with my schedule to have
this exciting fun and lighthearted conversation today.
BHAVNEET: We’re super excited to talk to you about
your crazy driving experiences. Since I know you’ve been on both sides, both
coasts of the country. , before we dive into your crazy driving experiences,
what are some of the places that you’ve driven and where are you going?
JEN: Yeah, , because I was a December baby, ,
I actually was considered a little bit older than most of the people in my
class growing up because I was held back for a year. So I was actually one of
the first people in my class to actually get my driver’s license.
That was in San
Diego, California. And, , I’ve been basically from the west coast to the east
coast, , in the last 30, what am I now? 33, 33 years of my life. , when I’ve
driven over here, , it was a combination of my husband driving me a lot of the
times, but definitely in my younger years, like my late teens to my twenties, ,
I had a, , buggy, I called it, , she was a green beetle, a Volkswagen beetle, ,
that I drove for quite a long time.
And,, I have some
fun stories with that car. I’ve had that one for 15 years before we ended up
selling it.
TARANJIT: , well that’s goes into my next
question. How would you describe your relationship with driving? It’s something
you prefer or do you like being the
passenger?
JEN: Lately, , because I have been doing some
traveling in the recent weeks. I absolutely love driving. Nowadays my commute,
if I do commute, it is about, , two hours back and forth from where I’m
currently at to where I want to be. There’s just something therapeutic about
being on the road and transitioning from your home base to let’s say your workplace
or to the place where you’re going to be engaging and meeting up with people,
to driving back home and, going through that mental shift from point a to B, ,
to really come back home fully, ready to arrest.
BHAVNEET: , I completely agree with you. I know
there’s a lot of people that are like, ah, I hate commuting, but I definitely
think it’s a very calming time. It was like, it’s your, it’s your me time?
Transitioning, like you said, between work and home or wherever you’re going.
JEN: Yeah, absolutely. That reminds me of, I
remember I had a friend where it was just so normal for him to commute, like no
big deal. Like he would meet up with me at a gym, but it was at least an hour
drive. And for me, years ago, I was all about trying to, travel to things that
were only five, 10 minutes away.
So for, for me to
hear his experience of that long commute, I just couldn’t get it. I was like,
why would you waste that time on the road? But now, especially coming out of
the pandemic or as we slowly come out of the pandemic, Actually being out of
the house is amazing and being on the road and, practicing that social
distancing in a car is amazing.
So I’ve, I’ve
grown to appreciate the commute for sure.
BHAVNEET: Have you ever been in a car or a
passenger in a car where you’re like, oh my God, this
was a bad idea.
This person’s a
terrible driver.
JEN: Oh gosh, I can’t think of one, at the
moment, I think part of why I liked driving is because my brother actually was
the first amongst my siblings to drive he’s a year and a half older than me.
And,, I just
didn’t like the way he drove. Part of it was because he would really press on
the gas really hard and then on the brake really hard. So you’re just
constantly like, you know, like, well, and then you get kind of lightheaded and
dizzy. Fortunately I haven’t had a worse situation than that in a while, from
what I can recall.
But I think that’s part of why I enjoy being
in the driver’s seat as opposed to the passenger seat, just because it’s kind
of out of your control in a sense when someone’s driving and you’re at the
mercy of the, of the turns and the weaves and, and everything, but, I think
it’s those experiences being a passenger that have, , motivated me to enjoy
being more of a driver than a passenger
TARANJIT: Yeah,
understand where you’re coming from. I feel
like with our dad or when I get in the car with our brother too, I, I don’t
know. Maybe it’s just a guy thing. I’m just like, okay, well you are doing this
little more harsher than I would,
JEN: Yeah,
TARANJIT: but
well, this is a
great segue into your top three crazy driving stories.
So what would you
say are your most craziest driving experiences that you’ve had?
JEN: I’m going to go back to my teenage years
when I first started driving for the first time. It was me and one other friend
that happened to have this, , at the time it was like a really sexy Lexus car,
, just a very attractive , oh, you want to be in the passenger seat with that
guy kind of car.
And at the time,
because I was the eldest or mainly older than most of my classmates and I had a
Volkswagen beetle that had the word turbo in the back, meaning that’s opposed
to. Faster. I had an ego, I had this, I had this ego about like, oh, I can
drive faster. And I have this really cool lime green colored Volkswagen beetle.
We got it used, but it was a pretty fancy
beetle at the time had green and black leather seats inside. I remember , my
friend and I, , at the end of class, when we all decided to get in our cars and
I don’t know where we were driving, but it happened to be me, my friend, let’s
say my friend’s name is Jerry.
That’s not his
actual name. Jerry happened to be driving this Lexus. And then I had, I had two
or three other friends in their cars and I think we were headed toward , some
Starbucks or McDonald’s or something. Cause that was the thing to do back then
go through drive-throughs cause you have a car and for whatever reason, we
ended up going to , the stop light.
It’s a stoplight and a major,, intersection.
we somehow had this idea that we should race. Let’s see how fast we can go. ,
and this is like a main road by the way. And if anyone’s ever been in Chula
Vista, California, it’s an Olympic Parkway was, is the main street has like
four lanes.
My friends and I actually happened to, to line
up, , on this lane. And as soon as the light turned green pressed on the gas and
just started going I remember speeding through the lanes, cutting through the
other cars. I’m pretty sure my car went over a hundred miles per hour at one
point.
And we were about
three fourths of the way to our actual destination. When a motorcycle cop was
standing on the side of the road with one of those pedometers signs pointing
right at pointing right at our cars tracking ours, our speed. The moment we saw
this cop come out. I ended up pressing on the brake as hard as I could.
You can even smell the rubber, , behind me, ,
as I’m trying to slow down as much as I could, but unfortunately I got pulled
over. Jerry got pulled over and since the cop couldn’t get everyone else, all
my other friends sped through like no big deal, , one of them actually had a
really outdated cars, so they couldn’t even speed to begin with.
It was really, it
was really funny. When the light turned green, they were just way behind. But
me and my friend got pulled. Luckily I was pulled over for, I think I went over
a hundred miles per hour, but I was only caught for about, 85 miles per hour,
but in an area where it was only 50 miles per hour.
So we were already
30 miles per hour above the speed limit. , that was enough for us to go to
traffic school. my friend and I ended up going to two different traffic
schools. And I have to say though that I had a blast, I actually got to know my
class. And yes, I knew I was in trouble, but I knew once I did that class, the
ding would be removed off of my record, but I had a great time unfortunately,
my other friend who went to another traffic school didn’t have a similar
experience. He actually got in so much trouble with his parents. I know I got
in trouble, but I had like a lighter attitude on it,
and, , since then
I barely go, go over the speed limit, like maybe five miles per hour above the
speed limit. So if it’s 65, I go 70. But that lesson, that time really taught.
Okay. There’s cops out there and you think you’re on this road? That’s newly
developed that no one is on, even though, my high school was like literally
down the street.
What was I
thinking at that time? But cops are out there. Y’all so just want to give you a
warning if you’re new and driving, and you think that you can speed in one of
those main streets, you’ll be greatly disappointed by a cop doing this to you,
with their, with their machine and trying to catch you for a hundred, but
luckily they only caught you for 85.
TARANJIT: Yeah, that’s interesting. , because I, I
know here in Maryland, at least, I don’t know how I was over there, but 80 is
considered reckless driving. So I don’t know if it will be a more severe
punishment than just getting traffic school and , off the hook for that. I
don’t know what the speed limit for reckless driving would be for over there, but
it sounds like I don’t think 80 is,
it doesn’t sound
like it.
JEN: I think, , 90 was, was considered
reckless driving. I remember the cop pulling over and he was all like, do you
know how fast you were driving? And, I knew what it was, but. I don’t know,
like you tell me. And so luckily when you said it was in the eighties, it
turned out, it sounded like it wasn’t too bad.
, like you pointed
out, it was just, it was just traffic school. That’s no longer on my record,
but, , I think 90 probably was the speed limit for reckless driving, , over
there versus, , , in Maryland
BHAVNEET: well, you got lucky, you just barely
missed it. But I think your one friend who had the older car, must’ve been
really thankful. They’re like, oh, well, I’m glad I couldn’t go very fast.
JEN: yeah, I was a little bitter about that
because my friend, like, none of my friends who, , was a part of that car race,
we were young, they didn’t know any better. They, they didn’t think to maybe
help us in any way. Me and Jerry pretty much got the brunt of it and going to
traffic school and dealing with that.
But yeah, I remember talking to my friend
about that and they’re like, oh my gosh, I’m so glad that I have this beat up,
hand me down car, because I probably would have gotten pulled over. As I got
pulled over, he he drove past me,
cause I think he
was still trying to slow down, but luckily, the cop couldn’t catch him because
he can’t catch all five of us. Right.
TARANJIT: Actually, it reminds me of something I
saw at one time when I was coming home, I was going in between the two campuses
I went to for college. And there was a police officer standing on the side of
the road and he was literally just pointing. And like you come over, you come
over and here, like five people pulled over.
JEN: Oh my gosh.
TARANJIT: So, I mean, I guess everyone else would
get
lucky in your
case.
JEN: Yeah, for sure. I’ve never been pulled
over like that ever again. So lesson learned.
BHAVNEET: Let’s hear your second story.
JEN: This was, , also in my younger years,
probably in my young twenties, when my sister, turned 18, she decided to leave
home and go to school at UC Santa Barbara. So this is still a west coast story.
And I remember that I wanted to visit her on my own.
And so at the time
I was still driving my green Volkswagen beetle, it was my pride and joy. All my
friends in town knew that it was my car. But anyway, , I remember I went to
visit her and I decided that on the way home from UC Santa Barbara to San
Diego, I was going to drive the Pacific coast highway.
So they call it
PCH, , out in the west and it happened to be at a night when it was raining. I
thought I could do it. I’m a good driver. I got this I did not have this, I
will let you all know. Now, if you ever want to drive a scenic routes, do not
do it during rain and at nighttime because the thing with PCH or the Pacific
coast highway is it is right next to the coast.
You’re basically driving against a cliff the
entire way from, Santa Barbara, all the way down to San Diego. And I just
remember how. Petrified. I was, I remember just the wind at night, slapping my
car and the rain, , hitting my window shield. And I felt this weird pressure
with the cars behind me to drive faster.
I was like, oh my
gosh, I’m on the scenic route and I’m supposed to be a fast car. I’m a terrible
car, but I’m scared for my life right now. I don’t know if I’m going to turn in
the wrong direction, it was really crazy. I don’t recommend it for anyone that,
, , wants to drive home safely. I probably should have taken the highway, maybe
the 15, but I just remember my car moving left and right.
And, if you think
about winding roads and scenic routes, you’re moving like left and right. And
you’re up and down the hill , and I was tired so that was not smart of me on my
end. You know, when you’re young, your twenties, you think that you’re
invincible?
I was wrong, but I
just remember how focused I was. I was like this on the wheel and just trying
to keep my car together. I don’t know how long PCH is, but it felt like forever
to be able to, , drive down that senior group at night with the wind, with the
rain and barely seeing, the railing, to keep you from falling off.
Very, very, very, very, very bad idea.
BHAVNEET: One driving at night and it’s like of
all the times when it’s raining. Oh my God. When you were driving,
were you a lot on
the side that was literally along the
edge of the cliff?
JEN: yes, because I was driving from north to
south. So the lane was on the very right. Yep. That was fun.
BHAVNEET: Oh, I can only imagine. Oh my God.
JEN: Yeah. I don’t know why I thought, I
think in my mind I thought it, it was a shorter trip. I thought, oh, the scenic
route seems like it’s less miles than, taking the typical highway. So I
thought, oh, it’ll be fast. It was not faster. It was scarier. It was longer.
And, , I felt very
fortunate. I don’t know why. I didn’t think to pull over and go on the highway.
I don’t know. I think it’s because I thought I could do it. I, it was young, it
was in my twenties. I was like, I got this, I’m awake. I could do this at
night. Nowadays, I go to a gas station and Russ, , I’ve learned now in my
thirties, it’s okay to pull over and rest it’s okay.
But at that time I
thought I could gun it. And I think, Santa Barbara, all the way down to San
Diego is a good, five, hour drive. And I thought I could do it. I ended up
being longer because of the rain the wind and my fear of falling off the cliff.
TARANJIT: Yeah, it was smart to pull over. I know
at that age, you’re probably like, I committed to this. I’m just going to do
it, finish this aware I already started, but yeah, that was smart to pull over
because driving while tired or especially when you can’t see can be very
dangerous and you’re really close to this edge too.
So , it could have
ended bad, but thankfully
it didn’t.
JEN: Yeah, thank goodness. And I found out
years later, , sometimes there’s landfall that happens at, at PCH because you
know, it’s right next to the cliff. When I heard those stories, , a couple of
years ago and how parts of the roads were blocked off, I just thought to
myself, wow. I’m glad, I’m glad I wasn’t there at that time.
, to experience
that, especially if it happened at night, I mean, could you imagine, , what
would you do. if this landfill, or what do you call it? The avalanche, like if
an avalanche happens and you’re stuck there in the rain, , at night, , thinking
that you’re in your twenties and you’re invincible and you can do it, I’m glad
that I didn’t have to experience that.
That probably
would have been a hard lesson
TARANJIT: Oh, yeah, for sure.
JEN: . So I thought I’d save that for, I
saved the best for last, because I know you guys mentioned three trips at the
beginning of 2020, my husband. , started to have this dream of eventually
living in an RV and just traveling, just road tripping and working off of our
laptops and stuff like that.
So we were pretty
fortunate to have done that right before everything shut down. So March, 2020,
we actually took an RV road trip from Virginia all the way down to, , Florida
for a podcast conference
And that was a fun
trip, , being able to drive the east coast and see the difference between the
west coast and the east coast. Is vastly different everyone in case you’ve
never checked out both of the coasts. I, , I think the, the coast are so, so,
so, so different. And I think they’re both worth exploring and driving up and
down.
So, , once
everything shut down, my husband and I just like with many of us we had to stay
at home, weren’t commuting as much. And started to have, cabin fever, being
stuck at home, not having anywhere to go and you start to drive a little crazy
and if it wasn’t for therapy, I think I, I don’t know who I’d be today.
I’m just saying
thank goodness for therapy, highly recommended for everyone. , . So in
December, we’ve been stuck at home now for months, from March till December.
How many months is that?
Like 9 months at
this point and December happens to be my birthday month and I just thought,
Hey, let’s get out of the house. Let’s go do something. We decided to do an RV
road trip again. We went on this website, outdoorsy.com and it’s a, it’s a
great website. I don’t get paid to talk about it, but it’s basically like the
Airbnb for RVs in case anyone’s looking to rent an RV and we found this RV that
would have allowed us to go for a certain length of miles.
Once we got the RV
and we knew the length, we started to figure out, okay, where can we go from
Virginia to wherever before we have to turn around, , and make sure we don’t,
go over the amount of miles. We were allotted, this RV.
We were looking at the map. Let’s just, let’s
just go all the way out to Nashville, Tennessee. Why not? Like that seems like
a good enough distance from Virginia to Nashville. So we ended up road
tripping,
virginia to
Nashville. And when we arrived, we actually arrived on Christmas Eve. Pretty
late at night. I believe around 11:00 PM and we happened to have found parking
right behind the Nissan stadium, which is in downtown Nashville, right there on
the Cumberland river.
And, across the
street, across from the, John Sagan, Thaller pedestrian bridge so, , we decided
to park there for the night and, , we thought in the morning, oh, we’re going
to, , go drive around. In fact, we actually drove a little bit through, ,
downtown Nashville for a little bit. One street in particular we decided to go
on was first avenue, which we’ll later find out was actually the place of, of
the bombing.
But I remember on
Christmas morning, we woke up to the RV shaking.
And we feel a bomb
go off. At first year you’re not thinking it’s a bomb. And so I’m looking
outside. And the first thing I see across the Cumberland. Is it smoke, you see
smoke coming out and you don’t know where it’s coming from yet. You just see
this black smoke is coming out, , from the buildings and you start seeing all
these police cars just driving.
Within like 10, 15 minutes, you see like 20
cars, going over the bridge and we decided that we wanted to check it out
because I mean, I think every natural human being will be like, what was that
sound? Let’s go check it out. Right.
Like, I think
that’s just a natural human nature thing to do. We decided to drive around the
Nissan stadium. We’re still on the side where the bombing didn’t happen. We’re
just, we’re just kind of on the side of the Nissan stadium
and it looked like
literally the street that we drove the night before, , all the buildings, the
windows shut. The buildings destroyed, water pipes, just shooting out, in the
air. You start to see the firetrucks and the cops trying to block off the
roads.
And we’re here on
the other side, just, watching this all happen and not knowing exactly what’s
going on. , then, , my husband’s mom, for whatever reason, and even though
she’s in Ohio, , calls us, she calls us within, I think, half an hour of all
this happening. And she says, Hey, I heard there’s a bombing in Nashville.
And, and mind you,
this is like, within the 30 minutes, we were like, what, how was she awake?
Right first and foremost. Cause this was happening at like 7:00 AM in the
morning. And how did you know to tune in to Nashville? She had mentioned to us
that I heard there was a bombing that took place in an RV and we’re like, Oh,
that’s interesting.
, yeah, we’re
actually here at the scene right now we’re across the river watching this take
place, seeing this fire, the firefighters and the police handling what’s going
on on the other side. , then when we heard the w when we heard that
information, we’re like, oh, , okay, that was an RV.
People are probably thinking about our RV now,
they’re probably thinking that maybe every other RV might be a suspect. We
didn’t actually process that at the time. We’re still trying to gather
everything that’s going on in there.
And it was all
very sudden. My husband and I agreed, like, maybe we should. Make the most out
of this. I, cause I said to him like, oh my gosh, they’re going to shut down
the roads. We’re not going to be able to go sight, seeing the way that we want
it to. We want to be able to drive around downtown and see Nashville.
This is our first
time here, but let’s try it anyway. Let’s see. Despite the craziness that’s
going on. And apparently this was on the news all over, despite that we didn’t
know. Cause we were there in the moment. Other than what his, what his mom told
us, we’re like what? Let’s go sightseeing. Anyway.
So we start
driving around and we ended up going to the bicentennial Capitol mall, state
park, which is not too far from downtown Nashville. And, , we are just about to
find parking. When we had five cops pull us over, we had two cars pull up in
front of us, two cars behind us and one next. My husband is literally about to
jump on a call, to catch up with his family on Christmas morning,
so these cops pull
up and, and we’re just like, , honey, we got some cops here. The cops come up
to us and, , they look at us and they sort of peek inside and they’re like,
Hey, , we got a tip from someone that this RV was driving around and they were
worried that you could have been a bomber as well.
We’re looking at them and they’re looking at
us. And the cop was like, but , I don’t think anyone would blow up a fancy RV
like this, it was one of those, , I think Mercedes, camper bands, like super
fancy ones and were just like, , I don’t know what to say.
I mean, yay on that person who decided to,
Marcus as a suspect, but, we got a dog we’re about to talk to family, I don’t
know what to say. fortunately we ended up having a good conversation with these
cops and they were laughing about it. And eventually, , all five of them drove
away.
But at that point
we were like, Okay. We can not go sightseeing here anymore. So as much as we
wanted to spend the day in Nashville, Tennessee, where like, yeah, I think if
we stay on much longer, we’re probably going to be a suspect again. We’re
probably gonna get pulled over again. So let’s get out of here.
BHAVNEET: Well, a crazy experience. Oh my God. But
like, what was the thought? Like, what would you have been thinking? Like
seeing five police cars, just pull up and just be like, uh,
JEN: Oh my gosh. I mean, luckily one thing I
always am grateful for is my husband. I feel like he’s a good shield, for these
like situations. So I definitely have to give a shout out to him, but in that
moment I had all these feelings rushing through my head. I thought okay, what
did we do wrong?
Did we make a
wrong turn? I was just afraid. I just thought I was going to be in trouble. I,
I was like, do, do I have my paperwork on me? Like, where is my paperwork? You
know, like all these feelings of like, am I going to get arrested? Like, are
they going to, question us, detain us just because like, we’re an RV too.
Fortunately the cops were really good people.
They were really kind to us and they kind of laughed about the situation. So
all I can say is thank goodness.
And the sheriffs
were just, they were just doing their job and we appreciated that.
BHAVNEET: Yeah. And you did mention that you were
originally in San Diego and now you’re in Virginia. We know that there’s
different types of drivers in different areas, even within the us. And you did
mention this, that like the east coast and the west coast is so completely
different.
How would you describe different drivers that
you’ve seen, , in different areas?
JEN: , I like this question because I could
definitely give a clear example. So in California we have something called the
California roll. And what does that mean? It means that when you stop at a stop
sign, you don’t stop. You keep rolling. People don’t do a complete stop. So
they call that the California roll.
Very often we get
criticized for cutting people off for giving people the bird, the middle
finger, and it just, it just seems a little aggressive out in California at
least in my experience. In the east coast Harbor, at least where I live in
Virginia beach, I feel like people are kind of like people, actually wave at
you.
I don’t know about you, but I experienced what
I call the Southern hospitality wave, where it’s like, as soon as you get eye
contact, you’re like, oh, hello. , good to see you. Like, you don’t have to say
anything, but it’s just a wave of acknowledgement. And I, I know that people have
said this differently.
I’m sure DC is a lot different, but at least
in Virginia Beach, I have found that people are kind, they give you eye
contact, they wave at you. They even say, oh, go ahead. feel free to, pass.
I’ve actually grown to like that. And it’s interesting, being back here in
California temporarily, , to, , see the craziness of, people speeding
I drive from Palm Springs, , San Diego, which
is about a two hour drive. There’s a sign there’s always one or two signs that
says strictly enforced miles per hour because there’s construction going on. So
let’s say that, the speed limit is supposed to be 65 miles per hour.
But because
there’s people working on the roads, they put it down to 50. So it says
strictly enforced and you see these signs blinking, strictly enforced, . I’m
here actually going by the speed limit and all the cars are just, , they’re
just driving by like speeding past me. And I feel this odd pressure, , to keep
up with, the traffic flow.
But , I feel like
out here People don’t care. They care more about the traffic flow, as opposed
to the enforced, , miles per hour, the enforced like, Hey, there are human
beings building this road for you. So it’s more convenient for you, but these
cars are just like, Nope, no big deal.
I got to get to
work, that’s something I noticed. But out here in the east coast, in Virginia,
I’d like to believe at least from what I’ve noticed that people are more
attentive to the speed limit. The speed limit is a little bit lower, so there’s
a lot of freeways where, I’m used to like 65 miles per hour, for example.
And some of the
freeways here are 60 miles per hour. And sometimes I low as 55 miles per hour.
That’s a little strange to me. I’m like, oh, that’s, that’s really slow, but
then again, I appreciate it. And I appreciate when people actually follow the
speed limit.
BHAVNEET: That’s really awesome. I can’t say that
Maryland is so same, but I’m glad that you found a place that where people are
actually kind, I can imagine the California super aggressive, but even in
Maryland, I feel like people don’t obey the speed limit. They don’t like the
signal they like to cut you off.
They aren’t as kind as, I guess, Virginia,
Virginia beaches.
JEN: That’s interesting because , I have
friends up in your area as well. And, very often I get this question like, oh,
so, people must be snobby out here. Huh? Like, aren’t you experiencing that?
Because there’s a
lot of old money out here and , I’m here in Virginia Beach, like living by the
beach and I’m like, no, I mean, not, not really actually, , I feel pretty
fortunate. There’s just something about the friendliness of the neighborhood
that we lived in that I think I found that hidden gem in Virginia.
But I definitely
hear up , in Novas, I believe they describe it Northern Virginia that, it’s a
little bit more aggressive, but I mean, I get it. It’s more, it’s more tight up
there, we’re here, here in Virginia Beach. It’s interesting because. Virginia
is one of the oldest states in America, and yet in Virginia Beach, I’m driving
around.
I’m like, wow,
there’s really not a lot of traffic here. There was a part of me that had to
get to a point where I realized I was like, oh, the reason why the roads aren’t
so full is because I’m not in Southern California anymore. This is not Southern
California. Traffic is not that bad out here.
TARANJIT: Yeah. I have a coworker who comes from
Virginia into Maryland to work. And she often mentions how Maryland drivers
like to just hang in the left lane and not move over when they’re driving
slower than cars, like cars behind them. And she was like, why? Like, why is
that happening? So is that something similar down there?
In Southern Virginia, do people
BHAVNEET: move over?
JEN: from my experience, I think so. And the
only reason why I would notice it more than normal is because my husband
actually lived in Europe for about a decade and they actually follow the road
rules. Basically you would always stay on the right lane and you would only
switch to the left just to get in front of the other car.
And so that’s,
that’s supposedly what we’re taught to do actually, for me in Southern
California, I was never taught that. I didn’t know that, just like what you
mentioned with your friend, I didn’t know that You should not stay on the left
lane all the time. So being with my husband and him pointing that out, I’m
like, oh, I didn’t realize that.
And oh, now I can
see how rude it is to stay in the left lane, especially if you’re going really
slow.
TARANJIT: Oh, I’m sure it was like a complete
difference between the two different coasts especially with the crowdedness of
California. Now that we’ve heard your crazy driving experiences, let’s dive
into you as a driver. How would you describe yourself as a driver and would
your family
and friends agree?
JEN: well I think that I’m a safe driver, but
I feel like my husband doesn’t think I am. And part of it actually is because
when he served in the military, part of his job was to be in the passenger seat
and look ahead for the, for the driver to say, watch out for that, watch out
for that.
It’s funny. Cause a lot of times I have him
drive because I’ve gotten so upset with him, always pointing out things like,
oh, watch out, slow down. I’ve been driving for nearly, 15 years before I met
you. Like you think I know to slow down and press on the brakes and everything.
But, I would say
that when I’m by myself, especially in the recent weeks of, commuting from Palm
Springs to San Diego, , I’d like to say that I’m an easy going driver. I love
going on cruise control. I love listening to music. I love reflecting. I love
being able to enjoy the scenery,
although I think,
the east coast definitely has a lot more lush than, than the west coast, but,
I’m an easygoing careful driver for the most part.
The moment I start to feel sleepy, I have
learned, you gotta be a grownup Jen and pull over and rest for a minute. You
cannot gun it the way that you used to do in your twenties. So, I’ve become a
more slower driver from my, short car racing days.
It’s very easy for us to just, focus on going
from point a to point B, but considering how coming out of the pandemic, I
haven’t driven in a while.
It’s just been so
nice to, take my time and look at the scenery and look at what’s around me.
And, one of the bigger things I also noticed, between the east coast and the
west coast is in the west coast, there is less roadkill. So, so in the east
coast, you see roadkill all the time. It blows my mind, put the roadkill IC
I’ve seen a lot of them and I’m sure you both have as well.
And, and I’m just
like, wow, that is definitely a culture shock.
TARANJIT: Yeah, It’s funny. You mentioned the
animals on the, on the east coast versus the west coast. Maybe it’s because
there’s more trees out this way. And the roaming more freely. We live more out
in a small town area. So we see deer all the time and I’ve actually had an
accident with one.
So yeah, it’s not,
it’s not something
you want.
JEN: Oh, gosh. Yeah, I remember the roadkill
I used to see in, , in San Diego and that was terrifying. I was like, oh my
gosh, this tiny little possum, how sad. And, I would think about it. It would
sit with me for awhile, but coming out to the east coast and like you said, you
see, you see the deer, you see the family of deer, you see the mom and the baby
deers on the side, and even going down to Florida.
, this was the
first time I’ve seen this, , pigs there’s pigs out on the Florida coast and
they’re Blackford. And I remember just seeing these pigs. Casually on the side
of the road, like, no big deal.
It’s funny. Cause most of my experience out
here, I’ve depended on my husband to drive. Cause I’m like, I don’t want to hit
one of those. I don’t want to hit a deer. I don’t want to hit a pig. I don’t
want to hit anything else.
And you’re the big
creature that shows up. It’s just mortifying. Plus I want to see how cute the
on the side of the road, it gets cute that they just pop up there and they’re
just observing like,
can I cross, but I
don’t want to see what, when they actually do cross and they get hit.
TARANJIT: Yeah, it’s nice when they just stay on
the side. Not when they come across
the road
JEN: Yeah. It’s like, stay there please.
And thank you.
TARANJIT: When you’re talking about rolling down
your windows, I don’t know if you’re here on the east coast when the cicadas
around. I don’t know if they were down as far as. Southern Virginia. But the
big cicadas came out this year.
So they
recommended you not to put your windows down because they will come into your
car.
JEN: We definitely had cicadas in our
neighborhood, but, , I, I definitely feel fortunate that we hadn’t had them run
in thank goodness.
BHAVNEET: Yeah. Well, speaking of aggressive
drivers out in California, or even here, well, I guess you’d mentioned that
there’s more kinder over here in Virginia, but, what would you say is your
biggest driving pet peeve
JEN: I think my biggest pet peeve would be if
they are driving beneath the speed limit, because I’m just thinking to myself
like why, unless you have your hazard lights on. Imagine a car that’s going
slower, below the speed.
And then you want
to switch lanes, but there’s a truck next to you, , so you’re just kind of
stuck, right. You’re just boxed in and you’re just stuck here for a while you
feel, restless and claustrophobic because I don’t know about you, but it’s
scary to be next to a truck and, and to be next to a truck for a long time.
And you’re just
like, you’re like, what do I do? Do I go slower? But then the cars behind me,
will flash their lights at me because they’re saying I’m going slow.
And I’m like, but
it’s not me. It’s the person in front of me. That’s going slow. I’d say another
pet peeve would probably be someone. Making a negative gesture at you, because
maybe you were driving too slow and they drove next to you and they ended up
throwing the bird at you or, just calling you a name of some sorts.
I feel fortunate
that hasn’t happened a lot. But there, there are those times when that happens
and, and for me, my first reaction, cause I, I think I always look at things in
a positive light is, oh, I hope I hope that whatever you’re going through,
isn’t so bad.
Like I hope that,
I hope that moment was worth it for you to project that out on me,
TARANJIT: yeah, the slow drivers, the ones that
drive under the speed limit. I have noticed here that people, if they’re behind
a car, that’s driving slow, they tend to shift over to be like, it’s not me.
It’s that
person.
JEN: Yeah. Yeah. That’s the, I, I noticed
that too, actually. I never really looked at it that way, but that makes a lot
of sense. Like, you see the car behind this lower one, sort of weaving left and
right.
And I definitely
seen that. I’m like, oh, maybe, maybe they’re just trying to say, it’s not me.
It’s not me.
BHAVNEET: Exactly. Now that we heard a little bit
about you as a driver, let’s go back to your driving first. How would you
describe your first time driving experience? And it was.
JEN: oh gosh. I was, , born in December, I
was held back a year because the school system, said that I was still too
young. So when I started school, I actually ended up being older than most of
my classmates.
Once I got my permit, even though. Even though
you’re not supposed to drive other people. My friends were so excited that I
could drive. And I was like the cool kid.
And so my friends,
I, they would always, I’d always fill up my car with like my best friends, like
three, three at a time for if we wanted to break the rules because there was no
middle seat, but, , we made it happen anyway. They would try to squeeze in the
middle, especially if we were just going from, high school.
To like McDonald’s
I felt like I was like, everyone’s chauffeur and. I actually enjoyed that.
TARANJIT: Oh, yeah. When you’re in high school and
you’re the one who gets the license first, everyone’s going to be coming out.
It’s like, I don’t want to go with my parents or I don’t want to get on the
bus. Can you drive me?
JEN: yeah,
so true.
TARANJIT: what about your diving test? Were you
able to pass the first time?
How was the driving
test experience?
JEN: I failed it the first time. It took me
the second time to get it. The test, like the multiple choice tests really made
me nervous because I, I’ve always been an awful test taker. But I just remember
that pressure with having the, the teacher sitting in the passenger seat.
And I just
remember, I just remember how quiet I was. I was turning on my signal, like
three houses down before I take a right and, and just making sure, like, I
think my mindset at the time. okay, remember everything, if you’re going to
look left, really look left, , like really over-exaggerate so the teacher can
tell that you’re doing what you’re doing.
And I think
afterward part of their critique was like, oh, you don’t have to overdo it,
and then, of
course when I got my permit, that’s when I had a new sense of freedom and ego,
I definitely was quite cocky knowing that I was one of the few students on
campus to, have a car and a nice car for that matter. Not the hand me down car,
like my friend at the beginning that was super slow and didn’t get ticketed so
good on him for, for, I mean, that’s when his car finally became useful was the
fact that he didn’t get ticketed like I did,
TARANJIT: in California. Do you have to parallel
park on your test
JEN: I think we did from, from what I recall.
And you know what?
I was actually pretty good at it. Like, I don’t remember a time where I wasn’t
good at it. In fact, it was a pride point of mine. I I would deliberately,
like, let’s say for example, park backwards in the parking lot, just to show
people I could do it. And my friends would always be impressed.
Like, wow, you
reverse parked. And you actually were in between the lines. Oh my gosh, you can
parallel park. And I think part of the pride actually comes from, , a little
fun fact about me. I was actually, a military child. I was born in Japan and
it’s very common in Japan to park backwards, like to do reverse parking.
And so kind of
knowing that, that was part of growing up, I was like, oh, I’m going to reverse
parks. It actually came pretty easy.
BHAVNEET: That’s awesome. Yeah, we did have a
guest, he’s in Japan and he was mentioning how everyone reversed parks and I’m
like, oh, I would love that. I love reverse parking. I’m like, I feel like it’s
so much easier to get out.
JEN: Yeah, no, I agree. It’s a, it’s like,
it’s hard to, I mean, it may seem hard at first, but you thank yourself later,
right. Because when you’re, when you have to get out of the parking lot and you
park, like most people do, just pulling in, you have that anxiety of having to
look over your shoulder and, making sure there’s no cars speeding through,
because they’re trying to find, an open parking lot or open, open parking spot.
I definitely prefer reverse parking. You get
the hard stuff out of the way so that when you’re back, you can just drive
right out.
TARANJIT: Yeah. And I also feel like people are
more patient was if you’re going to parking reverse parking, they’ll wait for
you. Whereas if you’re trying to get out, they’re not going to let you out as
easily.
That’s what I’ve
noticed.
JEN: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I will say though
that not everyone likes reverse parking. Some people actually find it extremely
rude. This whole conversation just reminded me of the story. About a couple of
years ago I had, , quit my job. And,
I was going to my
car. But prior the, prior to that, the day before I remember going to my car
and this was before I knew I was quitting my job, I was walking to my car and,
, I did the reverse park and there was a lady who was, parked right next to me.
Here’s my car and here’s her car parked.
I’m trying to
think. So here’s my car. It’s reverse parked. And here’s her car. Right. And
this is the wall. And she was sitting right here in the driveway. Our cars were
really close to each other. And so I was standing here being courteous, waiting
for her to, to pull out because I could tell that she was about to leave.
So she staying
there and then she rolls down her window and she says, I want to see you get
into your driver’s seat. And I’m like, uh, why? She probably had a hard time.
She probably had to go through her passenger seat to climb over to her driver’s
seat.
And she was
probably having a rough day and she was letting it out on me, and I think to
her, the fact that I parked, I reverse park was so rude. It was absolutely
rude. So she was like, I want to see you, , get into the driver’s seat. And I
said like, why, what did I do to you? You know? And then I started saying like,
I was being very compassionate.
So this is, I I’m
grateful that I have this inmate, you know, even though I was raised in so Cal
or Southern California, I’m glad I didn’t really have this aggressive nature.
But I said something like, I’m sorry that you’re going through a hard time.
Like, you don’t know me.
Why are you taking
this out on me? I was trying to be compassionate. Her car was already on my
knee. Like she was about to leave. So I was trying to connect with her. She
ended up rolling up her window and turning off her car and just. She’s just,
she’s just waiting and I’m S I’m S I’m still standing there.
Luckily I’m small.
I’m five one. I did it. I like went in between, I, oh, I opened the car door. I
squeezed in, drove away. I drove away. And that was it now the next day though.
the day that I decided to quit, and I don’t know if it was the, I don’t know if
it was this woman, but I remember I was, I was very flustered after leaving my
office.
I was, I cleared
my desk and I came to my car and the, the side view mirror, the same mirror,
that was the same side as this woman from the other day was broken. Like
someone had broken it. And so I had to, try to like put it back in place enough
for me to drive back home so I can get it fixed.
But, if I’m
guessing, right, I think she got her revenge.
BHAVNEET: Wow. That’s a very extreme situation
of wherever
reverse parking may not
work
JEN: Yeah.
TARANJIT: well. Now that we heard about your past
driving experience and your current driving experience, let’s dive into the
future of driving with the possibility of self-driving cars. Becoming a thing,
maybe not sooner but later. What are your thoughts on this? And would you
get in one.
JEN: It’s interesting, I think with every new
innovation there are good and bad sides to it. , the way that I see
self-driving cars is the way that I see public transportation. I think it would
be nice to sometimes just, hop into, public transportation, like a train or a
bus, or even an Uber and just have someone drive you.
So I feel like
with the self-driving car, I think I would be open to it. , I know that some
people find it really extreme thinking like, oh, that’s bad for the road but,
we won’t know till we try. , I do hope that they never fully eradicate.
Us actually
driving just like how, when digital media started to take place, when blogging
started to take place, one of the biggest fears people had was that newspapers
were going to go away, but newspapers are still around depending on, , the
local community that you’re in and so I’m hoping that in the future, we have a
good balance of these self-driving cars, as well as, still having that,
nostalgic feel of actually driving your own car. That feeling that desire is
never going to go away. And I don’t think the actual, like, man led driving
experiences ever gonna go away, but I would say I’m open to it.
TARANJIT: Yeah. I wonder if
they would make a
separate lane for like there’s an HOV lane. If they would be like, self-driving
cars can go in this lane and people who are driving themselves, can’t get in
that lane. Because I wonder, if you mix the two onto the road, if there’s so
many of both types, when something bad happens, you know, like if there’s a
human driving versus a machine driving next
to you.
JEN: I could see it. There’s some highways
where they have a lane strictly for the city buses. And so I could definitely
imagine them opening up another lane. I mean, that would be great for, let’s
say people with, , people who are, , with disabilities and, and forgive me if
I, I feel like there’s a better term to describe that, but let’s say, for the
sake of my lack of knowledge, people with disabilities who maybe can’t drive,
this is a perfect opportunity for them to have a self-driving car, to take them
through the freeway and go from point a to B.
I don’t see it
happening everywhere, just like there’s still the winding roads that exist and
they’re still dirt roads in some places. I, I think we’re going to have a
variety. We’re just going to have more options for people that want to,
commute.
I’m not opposed to it. But at the same time, I
do think the nostalgia of actually driving yourself is never going to go away
either.
BHAVNEET: Exactly. Yeah.
I absolutely love
driving, I don’t know if I want to fully give that up, but self-driving cars
will be cool, especially when you’re super tired and you’re like, just get me
home.
JEN: Yeah, ,
BHAVNEET: all right. Final bonus. Question time.
Are you ready?
JEN: Let’s go.
BHAVNEET: If you could make one new driving law,
what would it be?
JEN: Ooh, one new driving law. Okay. I
thought about this the other day on the road. So it’s not really a lot more
like common courtesy. So, you know, like , if someone’s lights, aren’t working,
you would, you know, stick your hand out and gesture, like, you know, left or
right with your hand.
I thought about how, how cool it would be to
just have to just have a smiley face, like a sign with a smiley face on it to
point, because I feel like there’s so much like anger on the road, but if you
see this yellow emoji smiley face of a sign, telling people, Hey, I’m going to
take a left. I think it’d make the world a little, a little happier place to be
like, oh, they need to happily take a left or they need to happily switch
lanes.
I am more than
happy to let them do that. I think it’s so easy to, de-humanize people when
you’re on the road. , in terms of like a rule though, I feel like there’s a
part of me. And, I’m just saying this now because I, , I did get my driver’s
license at 16 and a half, years old, but I don’t know. I think there’s a part
of me that would think it’d be more ideal to raise the age.
Maybe it’s not as good for young kids,
especially high schoolers who were trying to be cool, like me and, and race
their friends, which was not a smart idea. I think that maybe we should raise
the age a little. Cause I think it is a, a great responsibility.
It’s a privilege,
to drive on the road. And so I think that, to possibly, raise the age because,
a lot of young people don’t appreciate that kind of privilege to be able to
drive wherever they want. And they’re thinking of being fast and furious and
speeding and cutting through lanes and stuff. And I just think that maybe if we
raise the age a little bit, , the road might be a little bit safer.
TARANJIT: Yeah,
That’s
interesting. We’ve had several people actually say to raise the age limit for
getting your license. And I think other countries also have it. A little higher
than we do in the U S so I guess see it where you’re not as mature at that age.
So you are not really thinking in terms of safety, you’re just thinking of
like, okay, I got this license.
Now I have the
freedom to go do this and that. So you’re not really considering all the other
parts that are important to driving, as opposed to just the fun of it.
And I love the
sign.
One, I think it
would just make people laugh or make people’s day if they were having a bad day
and they just see this like emoji sign sick out
JEN: I mean, I do appreciate it when people
have these, nice bumper stickers, saying there’s a baby on board. Just being
able to humanize ourselves and be like, Hey, I’m just trying to switch lanes.
I’m not trying to
cut in front of you. I’m not trying to ruin your day. Because , when you’re in
traffic all the time, it is easy to, de-humanize people in a sense, you’re just
looking at a car. You don’t, you don’t see the person in it. And so it is much
easier to project your frustrations on people, but yeah, you see that yellow
emoji just smiling as you, as you’re trying to switch lanes.
It would, , give
people a good laugh and, make them smile.
TARANJIT: Oh, I
agree. Do you have
any final thoughts or any tips that you would like to give
other drivers?
JEN: My biggest encouragement, this is
something I learned from being in Virginia Beach and picking up what they call
that Southern hospitality is to, give people more eye contact when you’re on
the road. Like give them that kind little gesture wave. That’s one thing I’ve
definitely come to appreciate out here. And it’s funny, coming back to
California, , where people don’t really give you eye contact. They’re just on
their phones and trying to not get eye contact with you. I brought that back. I
brought that, that culture of giving people eye contact and say, Hey, good
evening.
Hello. How’s it
going? Good morning. And I think if we could just do a little more of those
kind gestures, being on the road will be a lot better and we can show a little
more respect to strangers because that causes a ripple effect.
TARANJIT: Yeah, I love that. Being able to spread
a little bit of happiness, it can really help someone stay if they were having
a bad day. So that’s great that you’re bringing that Virginia culture over to
California and hopefully it will pick up over there a little bit.
JEN: I hope
TARANJIT: but hopefully
BHAVNEET: a little bit.
JEN: Yeah. It’s quite awkward when like you
do it and then they don’t reciprocate, but you know what? I’m okay with that.
At least I put some good out there and that I added some good in the world
today,
TARANJIT: yeah, well, someone has to be the first
to start it so you can start it in California and hopefully it will pick up,
but before we let you go, where can
listeners find
you?
JEN: Yeah, well, you can find all of my,
podcast shows and, contact information on my website, TheJenAmos.Com, which is
spelled T H E J E N a M O s.com. Most of my socials are The Jen Amos. If you
want to find me on there.
BHAVNEET: Well, thank you so much for coming on
today. It was really fun talking to you, hearing the differences between the
west coast and the east coast. And I guess maybe we have to move down to
Virginia Beach.
JEN: yeah. Come visit for a day, see, see
what it’s like , and I, I can almost guarantee you that you’re going to get a
couple of waves.
It’s such a pleasure. Thank you both for the
opportunity to be on your show.
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TARANJIT: Jen shared some really interesting
stories. And I feel like I say this with every guest, they all have very
interesting stories to share, but hers about being suspected as the RV that was
involved in the RV bombing, like crazy. imagine. You’re just you rent this RV
to go on a little vacation and you have to cut it short because you’re being
suspected as a potential bomber
BHAVNEET: and having the police called on you.
It’s like, oh, a
suspicious vehicle. Oh my God. At least the police were like, oh yeah, yeah,
there’s no way that’s you. And then they were able to get out of it. But at
that point it’s like, uh, trying to find a new vacation
TARANJIT: spot. Well, time to knock go when
something like that happens
BHAVNEET: well, like they weren’t gonna know.
TARANJIT: Yeah. But the story I really want to
chat about is that lady had a problem about her reverse parking.
BHAVNEET: I still don’t understand how she had a problem.
Like what was the issue? Because if you forward park, the person next to you is
reverse part. Your mirrors are not aligned. So you should be able to open your
door.
I don’t understand
what the problem is.
TARANJIT: Personally. What I think of is when you
park into a parking space, the driver tends to park closer on the passenger
side, as opposed to their side to the white line so they can get out. So you
leave more space on the driver’s side, if you’re averse part and the person
next to you is forward park.
Both of your
drivers doors are on the same time side. So why don’t you both leave enough gap
for yourself to get out? So there should be more,
BHAVNEET: yeah, I don’t understand. First off,
like what does it even matter that they were reverse or forward parked? Because
the car is there regardless, no matter which direction they were, you’re going
to have to open your door the same amount.
I don’t, I don’t
TARANJIT: think that it would be more room if you
have drivers to driver door, as opposed to. Driver to passenger door,
BHAVNEET: because then also your
mirrors are not in
the position where they might hit each other , where you’re like super close.
TARANJIT: The only thing I can see a problem with
is because her mirror is towards the front, like the outside of the parking
space, as opposed to the inside that she had to squeeze around her mirror to
get to her car as like, that’s the only thing I could see a problem with it.
BHAVNEET: It was still like, is not that big of a,
like what I want to turn off my car and wait for you to get in. I was like,
okay, bye.
TARANJIT: Yeah. I w I don’t think I would be mad
about, like, that’s not something that will make me. I feel like the thing that
would make me mad, someone literally parked right next to my car and I could
have.
Literally right
next to the car and there was no room or they parked an angle or something like
you can’t get, like, there’s something that prevent you from getting out.
BHAVNEET: Yeah. I guess we just used to seeing so
many, much worse, crazy parking than, oh my God. You reverse park that it’s
like
big black
TARANJIT: For those that are listening. What are
your thoughts on this? You agree with us or Jen or the other lady? What are
your thoughts? Is this something that would bother you and which direction do
you prefer? Parking forward or reverse? Yeah, you guys know if you’ve been
listening for a while.
We are team
reverse, but don’t let that, don’t let that, um, what’s the word affect your
answer. Influence your answer.
BHAVNEET: We won’t hate you. If you’d like to
forward park, I will be a little jealous cause I’m not very good at forward
parking as I am reverse parking.
Well, that was
Jen. We hope you enjoyed hearing her driving stories. And just a reminder,
there will be no episode next week because of the Thanksgiving holiday. We hope
everyone has a great break and we will see you the following week with our next
driver.
Sarah Beth
TARANJIT: Sarah has such a big heart and shared
how to better deal with some crazy experiences that you might have on the road.
Like the time she was sandwiched in a red light accident, got her dad’s car
stuck in a fence, and even being followed by a group of guys,
BHAVNEET: thank you for tuning in this week. And
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TARANJIT: Thank you for choosing to drive with us
and we’ll see you after the Thanksgiving holiday.
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SARA: When I was in college and, I was trying to get moved out of my apartment and clean it. And I was taking my stuff to storage it was quite a drive from my apartment to the storage space. And I noticed that there was a car following, so I started taking a really fast turns and trying to lose them.
And I noticed it was the car full of, college guys, my age at the time. And they followed, they were right on me my heart was pounding