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Driving Profile: Trevor Tomion
(sneak peek)
TREVOR: this, person he pulls over to the side
of the road.
So I’m immediately
concerned didn’t think much of it went to the grocery store.
We’re walking around the grocery store and
some dude comes rolling around the corner and it’s the guy, and he says to me,
did you just cut somebody off?
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BHAVNEET: Welcome back to another episode of drive
with us podcast. I’m Bhavneet.
TARANJIT: And I’m Taranjit, and we’re super
excited to have you ride with us as our drivers. Take us on some adventurous
drives around the world.
BHAVNEET: Before we get to today’s driver, did you
know that we record both video and audio for our. , if you’re interested in seeing
our guests tell their crazy driving stories, check out the drive with us
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TARANJIT: and now let’s meet today’s driver,
Trevor from California.
Trevor is a host of common leaders, podcasts
and the lead facilitator at common leaders, LLC, a company dedicated to
leveraging easy accessible platforms to share. Skills and experiences of
leaders.
And for leaders,
Trevor has published a variety of content, including exploring leadership,
hiring and finding excellent examples of leadership from places. Most people
don’t think to look in addition to his professional roles, Trevor has driven a
lot growing up on a rural farm in upstate New York.
He learned how to
drive from a very young age way before he was even old enough to get his. Starting
on snowmobiles and ATVs. He worked his way up to tractors, farm trucks, a
sports car, and of course, boring cars that he went fast and a lot here’s
Trevor,
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BHAVNEET: Welcome Trevor to drive with Us podcast.
Thank you so much for joining us today.
TREVOR: Thank you for having me. I’m so excited
to be on the side of it. And I am nervous to tell people about my driving , but
really excited to just be on the podcast with you all, you do a great job.
TARANJIT: let’s start with how you would describe
yourself as a driver. And what is your relationship with driving? Is it
something you enjoy?
TREVOR: Ooh. My relationship with driving I’ll
start with that is better sweet. I would say in a word because big goals, it
would be great to have somebody pick me up in like a rolls Royce every day with
a cold beverage and in the morning, like a hot coffee. So I didn’t have to
drive because it’s very dangerous statistically.
And I recognize
That So I would love to not have to drive, but I do enjoy driving. I enjoy driving
fast. However, the other dichotomy is I drive a bit like an old person. In a
lot of ways, I go fast, but I’m the person who will leave about three car
lengths in front of me because I’ve been rear-ended before.
And I get really,
really anxious when I’m riding and people tailgate, I’ve taken a few defensive
driving classes. So I’m very like, where’s my out. If this person crashes,
where do I go? So in some ways I’m a bit of an old person driver, but I do
really, really like to go fast.
BHAVNEET: A very interesting, like comparison, a
fast old person. That’s how you drive.
TREVOR: Yeah. Yep. In traffic, maybe that’s what
it is around people. I get really anxious, but when it’s just me on the road,
the flood is going down
BHAVNEET: you mentioned you took some defensive
driving classes. What exactly does that entail and how has that helped you?
TREVOR: Well, the first time I took defensive
driving, it was just to learn, I didn’t take driver’s ed because I didn’t want
to dedicate my summer to it. And it wasn’t required at that time in New York
state. I think I might’ve been 17 or 18. I took a defensive driving class just
to learn about.
More of the rules
of the road. I couldn’t even tell you why I took it, but I learned some really
interesting things. And I would say the most vivid thing that I remember from
that class was it was an older gentleman who had taught it for years. And he
explained the importance of the head rest. Do you?
know the
importance of the headrest in your car
BHAVNEET: Yeah. To help prevent whiplash. If you
get rear-ended.
TREVOR: Yeah. And for some reason that really
stuck with me, I’m about six foot tall. I’m not that tall, but I’m not sure
either. So one of the first things I do when I get into a car is I try to
adjust it, which is a bit awkward because most people don’t do that, but I’ve,
I panic a little. And then the other thing that I remember distinctly from that
class and it’s related is how important seat belts are in the back seat for a
similar reason that if the people in the back seats don’t have their seat belt
on and you get an accident, they could go over.
You. And it’s led
to some real big arguments with people in the backseat before when I made them
put their seatbelt on or try to, but the defensive driving, it was interesting
because they’re constantly teaching you to look for outs. So if there was an
accident or if there was an emergency, how do I get out of this situation?
So if you have somebody coming head on,
obviously you go ideally towards the ditch to your right. Well, I guess we
don’t have ditches out here, but you go to your right to get away from it. And
I also grew up on a really, really tall hill. , and one time when I was a kid,
there was a lady who lost her brakes going down that hill.
And it’s about a
two mile hill. It’s not. , really steep and then you’re done, it’s a really
long hill and she lost her brakes and went through several barns and maybe even
a house before she stopped. So I am constantly thinking about those two pieces
of looking for an out. And if I’m on a hill, where would I go?
Where’s the least
destructive path to stop this car
BHAVNEET: yeah. Especially with all the things
we’ve heard about like California traffic and California drivers. I think maybe
everyone should take a little bit defensive driving.
TREVOR: Yeah, no doubt. I think it’s much worse
than LA. I haven’t been to LA yet because most of the time we’ve been out here
spend COVID times, but San Diego gets pretty heavy with traffic sometimes. And
we do go to some of the ski resorts up north and you get into some of those
pretty heavy traffic situations.
And it is a
different level than where I grew up at least of five, six lanes each way of
just red brake lights. It’s not fun.
BHAVNEET: That’s crazy. we’ve never really been in
that much traffic. I think one time we saw that was we were in Georgia, but everyone
was gone from Atlanta, they were in vacation elsewhere, so it was all empty. So
if we got lucky.
TREVOR: oh, that’s see. There’s where the speed
comes in. Because I’m used to going as fast as traffic allows me to go. And if
there’s no traffic, that means you can go as fast as you want.
TARANJIT: Until you get caught.
TREVOR: No, which is why I took defensive
driving the second time, because I had to reduce points on my license.
TARANJIT: Oh really? I didn’t know. That was the
second reason.
TREVOR: Yeah. I took defensive driving again
about a year and a half later because I had gotten, I think at that point, my
third, no, that was, that was my second speeding ticket. And it was a big one.
It was, I think an 82 and a 55. And that’s a lot of points. And as I’m sure
you’ve learned either from yourselves or from others, you should never plead
guilty.
To speeding or
traffic charges. You should always plead not guilty with the hope they’ll drop
it. But I was, I think I was 19 or 20. I was very, even though I like to break
the rules, sometimes I was pretty upset and I’m pretty ashamed of myself. So I
went to this little tiny like very small courtroom in the middle of nowhere.
So this older, he
just seemed like a nice man judge. And he asked me how I was going to plead.
And my response to him was like, how could I prove that I wasn’t speeding? Is
there any way for me to prove that? And so they slapped me with the whole
ticket and that I think got me 11 points, and I think it was 13 points to lose
your license.
And the only way
to get that reduced was to take a defensive driving course. So I got to take
that course again.
TARANJIT: And that reduced it, like, , does it
take all your points off or did it take like a certain number off?
TREVOR: I think it got me down to eight. Yeah.
Took a few. I don’t have any points on my license anymore, but it took me a
long time to get rid of those guys.
TARANJIT: Yeah. why I don’t speak. I don’t want to
have to deal with that
TREVOR: It’s not ideal.
BHAVNEET: I don’t think it’s possible here in
Maryland with the amount of traffic we have and not as wide roads. I mean, I’ve
seen people speeding, but I don’t think I’d be able to.
TREVOR: Well, the country roads are definitely
where it’s at. If you get out of town, you find a straight flat road. That’s
where I got all that one. I think I’ve had four speeding tickets in my life and
all that one was on a long, straight, boring country road where nobody was
around and there was a cop just up over, the next hill that was shooting his
radar down.
but the best way is to get a radar detector.
When you get to that point, like the podcast is going to take off, you’re both
going to be really famous and you’re going to get a sports car. So you’re going
to.
need to get a radar
so you can try to go fast once in awhile.
TARANJIT: Yeah, our dad has the radar detector,
but I know certain states don’t allow us. You have to be careful which state
you’re going into with it.
TREVOR: It’s baloney, it’s illegal in New York
state, but they sell them at Walmart.
TARANJIT: I’m trying to get you.
TREVOR: Oh yeah, for sure.
BHAVNEET: Well, speaking of speeding and crazy
driving, let’s dive into your crazy driving stories. What would you say is one
of your top three craziest driving experiences?
TREVOR: The first craziest one I can think of
and we alluded to it just before the show. So I want to hit that one first, so
I don’t forget it . It was just a couple of years ago my wife and I live in San
Diego now, but we’re from the Rochester Buffalo area of upstate New York.
And when I say
Rochester, Buffalo, we’re from way out of town. I mean, middle of nowhere, like
40 minutes to get groceries kind of thing. One of the first things that’s
really nice when you get home, when we get home is the fresh air. That part’s
great. But the other thing is that people are jerks and we got a big slap in
the face.
One of the first
times we went back home, we got off the freeway and we were headed to the
grocery store because my wife has some dietary restrictions. So we going to go
to the grocery store and pick up some food for her. We’re driving through, it’s
two lanes on each side of the road. It’s like a 40 mile an hour zone.
And I’ve driven it
my whole life, except for when I’ve been out here. I think a guy. there was a
red truck and he cut me off and my response was to honk at him. And I think I
might’ve waved at him, but with one finger. That was just my natural reaction.
My dad just built me that way.
That that’s the
response. I’m not saying you should do it, but that’s what I did in California.
I’m pretty sure, like I told you, people would be like, no worries. I cut that
guy off. I shouldn’t have done that. That was my bad, well, this, person he
pulls over. immediately pulls over to the side of the road.
So I’m immediately
concerned because I saw that it was an older gentleman and then my mind starts
racing. Like maybe he was having a heart attack. Maybe he’s having a medical
emergency. Maybe something’s wrong with him. That’s why he cut me off. Didn’t
think much of it went to the grocery store.
We’re walking around the grocery store and
it’s been probably 10, maybe 12 minutes since this has happened. It’s a big
grocery store called Wegmans. We’re in the back of Wegmans. It’s a big store.
We were nowhere close to the front. Some dude comes rolling around the corner
and it’s the guy, it’s the guy that I cut off and he says to me, did you just
cut somebody off?
I’m like, I don’t
know. Who are you? And he’s like, did you just cut somebody off in the road
back there? Cause somebody just cut me off. And I think it was you. And I said,
sir, I, I don’t know, man, maybe want to lie to him, but I wasn’t trying to own
up to it. He’s like, I’m pretty sure it was you that cut me off.
And I said, okay,
And his response was he got an angry stance. He waved back at me with one
finger in the middle of the grocery store. Mind you And then he walked away and
as he walked away, I was like, have a nice day. It was just like the most
bizarre thing that he got so upset that he would follow me.
Like again, , he
would have had to pull over, wait until I got like a certain distance ahead.
Cause I didn’t see him pull back in the road. So he spotted my car. He tied my
car, took a mental picture of it, followed me into the grocery store, like at a
distance. Cause again, I didn’t see him.
And then he
must’ve just been walking around that whole store, angrily looking for me,
hoping he could peg me, which is very impressive, but I felt really bad for
him. Dudes got some high blood pressure.
BHAVNEET: I can’t believe it’s one thing that on
the road, they’re like, they’re angry back at you, but the fact that he
followed you to the store, into the store
TARANJIT: and then found out.
TREVOR: Yeah. I thought it would be really funny
for the people that watched the security cameras without audio, to try to
understand what this guy was doing and why
TARANJIT: Yeah.
BHAVNEET: It’s one thing that it’s like, you hear
fights breakdown like Walmart, but like in the back corner of a Wegmans,
TREVOR: in nature and nature’s market too. Like,
it just would have been so great.
TARANJIT: Or at least nothing bad happened. He
just kinda let his anger out and just went his way instead of getting physical
or anything, like some road rage instances.
TREVOR: for sure. He wasn’t, I mean, he wasn’t
older gentlemen, but he wasn’t a small guy and I’m pretty non-confrontational
so it would have been interesting to see what happened.
TARANJIT: Yeah. I’m glad that didn’t happen. And I
don’t think you want to know what would happen.
TREVOR: Nah
second most crazy.
And I think probably most unique driving experience and I’ve had a lot, I grew
up very fortunate to grow up on a farm and like my family had, like, we didn’t have
a ton of like really nice things, but we had nice things. Like, we were very,
very fortunate to have land and have stuff to do.
We had four
wheelers, and tractors and all sorts of stuff. So I was really lucky that way.
I got to experience?
driving a lot of
different things in my life. But one of the scariest and therefore I think
craziest like one of the moments where I look back and I think, gosh, I was
really lucky that day. I was probably 13.
I was pretty young
and I was driving a tractor at the time. At the time, I thought it was a full
sized tractor, but by today’s standards, it’s pretty small. And it, an old
tractor wasn’t like four wheel drive or anything like that. it was snowy. We
were covering, I grew up on a strawberry farm and it was covering time.
Like, I think we
were getting ready to cover strawberries with straw, which is what you do in
the winter. And I had a loader tractor. So it’s the tractor that has forks on
the front that can pick stuff up. In this case, it was to pick up bales. I have
no idea where I was going. I’m pretty sure it had to be related to
strawberries, but I think I was in like sixth or seventh gear, which I
shouldn’t have been going that fast.
And the tractor
common theme here. And I came around the corner of like the woods. I was just
following the trails back to go to the field I needed to go to. And it all
happened very fast. The tractor spun around. It did a full 360 in the snow. And
I was like 13.
I wasn’t really
big enough to immediately grasp the situation, take hold of the situation. I’m
sure I push the clutch in. So I stopped. However, I, I don’t remember doing
that. I don’t think I stopped, but I did like a full 360. And the reason that
it was so scary to look back on is if I had hit a dry patch where there wasn’t
snow, that tractor would have rolled for sure.
It was like, it
just happened really, really fast. And there some stories like that on tractors
where it’s not the same as a car where it’s really fast. Have you ever driven a
stick shift?
TARANJIT: We have not. It’s our goal to try one
day.
TREVOR: Uh, with all the help, you can just
solicit the help from your podcast. Following you could get the best driving
experience possible, but it’s similar with a tractor or at least the ones I
grew up on where you have to push the clutch in and then the brake.
So the reaction
times have to be very fast. You can push the brakes, but it’s not going to stop
the tractor. You have to push the clutch in first, which also doesn’t stop the
tractor. And then the brake. And there was another time where I almost, oh,
this is embarrassing. I was, again, probably under 15 years old.
I was just
questionable. And I was backing a tractor up to hook into like an implement to
hook on the back. And my dad was directing me back in the clutch slipped I
managed to stop it really fast, but there was a window of a, maybe a foot where
I could have easily hit him. Really, really scary. And if anybody’s listening,
you shouldn’t probably let your kids drive tractors until they’re at least 16
and full ground.
It’s just really
dangerous.
TARANJIT: Yeah. did that experience of spinning
out on the tractor ever affect you when you went to go start driving like a car
at age 16 or whenever you’re able to get your
TREVOR: Oh now yes. In my somewhat like older
years, those things stick with me more early on. Absolutely not. No, I was, as
I said, I like to drive fast a little bit reckless on occasion, especially in
the snow of still a little bit reckless in the snow. It’s so fun to play and do
donuts. So yeah, no, it didn’t have any impact on me related to car driving
other than just knowing how quickly things can change whether it’s a small car
or a big tractor, as soon as you’re not in control, it can get that very fast.
It’s scary. And that’s why I don’t want to
drive. I want to get picked up and like a rolly. have somebody drive me to
work? That would be ideal.
BHAVNEET: I mean, I think we’re commuting. Yeah.
Nobody wants to drive. This is not as fun.
TREVOR: no, definitely not. It’s boring. I had a
really long bus ride to school and I missed the bus ride to school. because you
just stare out the window and think about whatever, make up stories and your
little kid head. That would be excellent to have that now. I mean, I say this
like most people don’t, but a lot of people obviously ride to work.
I grew up in the
middle of nowhere, completely dependent on driving myself most places, but I
would love to have some of that time back I don’t want to drive. You’re really
talking me out of it.
BHAVNEET: I think you’re talking yourself out of
it. I love driving
TREVOR: Yeah. What kind of car do y’all have?
BHAVNEET: nothing. Fancy, nothing fancy. It’s
something that’s commuter sensible.
TREVOR: Same, same. I have a Ford C-Max it’s
extremely boring and practical.
BHAVNEET: Yeah, I have a Toyota Corolla and she has
a RAV4. We both, before she started working remote, we both had like an hour
and a half to work in an hour and a half back. So it gave good gas mileage.
That was like the one thing I look for is the gas mileage, because the gas is
expensive.
TREVOR: You’re telling me, it’s I was downtown
San Diego. Yesterday is $5 right now.
BHAVNEET: I can’t even imagine that
TARANJIT: are just went to like three 20 and I’m
like, that’s high.
TREVOR: In so many people out here have really
high-end cars and like Ford Raptors that have just a gas guzzling engine. And
I’m like, I know people don’t like the government telling them what to do, but
they should really outlaw somebody driving by themselves anywhere. It is such a
waste.
BHAVNEET: So what would you say is your third
craziest driving experience?
TREVOR: third craziest driving experience.
Three men in an
ambulance. Yeah. True story. I mentioned, I grew up on a strawberry farm. I
also mentioned that it’s very different now, I think, than it was when I grew
up there. But when I grew up there, we had secondhand everything. So all the
trucks we owned were secondhand. We had a couple of tractors that were not
secondhand, but most everything on the farm that my family had was secondhand
from someone.
We had an ambulance
second or third hand to help deliver strawberries to places. So my dad grew the
strawberries. We would pick the strawberries and then we would deliver them to
a store like a Wegmans to be sold. Strawberries, go bad, very easily. They’re
are very fragile fruit and ambulances.
Interestingly have
air conditioning in them. So the air conditioning was what drew my dad to buy
an ambulance, to deliver strawberries in my grandfather and my cousin and I,
the three of us went on a pretty long delivery trip on weekend. Back in the
heyday. We would sell like 500 flats a day, like a lot, a lot of strawberries.
And we filled the
back of the ambulance up with strawberries. And there’s a. You know how
airplanes have a little seat in the back that folds down for the attendant?
Well, the ambulance had a similar thing, so it was my grandfather drive in one
of my cousins in the front passenger seat. And then I was riding in that little
flip down seat in the back, which was great by the way, because it was dark, it
was cold and it was filled with strawberries.
You can still smell them. It was great. One
day, we’re delivering an Elmira, New York shouldn’t go there. And anybody
That’s from there would agree. There’s not much going on in Elmira, New York,
but that was our turnaround point. We drove, half the day to get there
delivered along the way, dropped some off, turned around and came back.
We’re on our way
back. And I think we stopped. To get lunch, but part way home, it comes over
the radio that there’s a bank robbery. There’s been a bank robbery in Elmira,
which is again, why you shouldn’t go there. And there was three guys and they
were in an ambulance.
What are the
chances that there was three dudes in an ambulance, in the same town that we
were in that robbed a bank and got away, by the way, they were looking for
them. And we were on the road, we didn’t get pulled over or anything, but we
were sure that we were going to get pulled over. It wasn’t like the weirdest,
it was just bizarre that the circumstances would line up how many people on an
ambulance.
It was just funny because especially with like
a grandparent, it’s a memory you get to hang on to forever. It was just a fun.
Fond memory to look back on
BHAVNEET: that’s interesting. Like you just show
up in an ambulance or here with your strawberries.
TREVOR: Yeah. And the best part is my
grandfather he’s passed now, but he was been old for as long as I ever knew the
guy he was old and like he wanted to park close. He would back the thing up
right to the front door, which adds to the allure of like, why is there an
unmarked ambulance backed up to the front door at Wegmans?
it could probably
get kinda fun too. Cause if you spilled some strawberries out of the back,
there would be like some red splatter. I’ve never thought about that.
BHAVNEET: That’s a very interesting thought at the
least you did not get pulled over for being a suspect in that bank robbery. I’m
surprised.
TREVOR: We were really, really surprised again,
like we weren’t trying to turn ourselves in, but we were pretty sure that we
would at least get pulled over and questioned
TARANJIT: a story, actually, a reminder, we had a
guest on last season who was driving an RV in Tennessee at the time of the
bombing and they’re designed to leave town and then they got pulled over
because somebody called the police and we’re like, Hey, there’s this RV driving
around? And they thought that was the RV.
TREVOR: I’m pretty sure I listened to that one.
I pretty sure that’s what made me think of that as I listened to that story. I
was like, what? Yeah, Ironic. I I’ll take ours over that. That would be
horrifying. Can you imagine being in a vehicle that was associated with
something like that?
TARANJIT: That’s crazy. That wouldn’t have ended.
Well, since you have been to so many, you’ve been on the east coast, you’ve
been on the west coast. How would you describe the types of drivers between the
coasts and have you notice any differences.
TREVOR: yes. 100%. Yes. And the most immediate
thing is they don’t do car inspections out here. So driving is immediately less
safe in my opinion. At least in New York, you have to yearly pretty sure it’s
yearly. Get your car inspected. And it’s a full rundown. Is it the same in
Maryland where they check your brakes and your tires
TARANJIT: We have an emission test that we have to
go to, but I don’t think they do like a full, check everything.
TREVOR: it’s the same thing out here is it
sounds like Maryland where they just check the. And where I’m from, they check
your brakes, they check your brake lights, they check your turning signals.
They check a lot of safety features, which especially makes sense when you
consider the weather without here, we don’t really have weather, especially in
San Diego, but as soon as it rains, there are people off the road.
We get rain,
honestly, max 10 days a year in this part of the, like specifically where we
are, we might have 10 days of rain all year. when it rains people a freak out,
they decide not to go to work. They decide not to go to school and they end up
off the road. But part of it is because I’m pretty sure because they don’t do
an inspection on brakes and tires.
So people are
running around going fast, like me with bald tires and everybody does here.
That’s another thing about out here and maybe it’s the same on the roads where
y’all are at, but people go the speed of traffic. The go is in my case five
over that. So I, you know, the speed of traffic and then I go a little bit
faster.
So if there’s
nobody on the road, again, you just go as fast as you want, but that’s real
dangerous if you don’t understand how to drive in the rain or the weather,
because as you know, you, you hydroplane, like there’s a lot of bad things that
can happen. And those bad things happen here because people are just not used
to it.
in the Northeast,
as I mentioned, people will hold a grudge, like the fellow that chase me into a
store versus out here. I think you’re a little less likely to have that happen
and a little more likely to pull up behind somebody to stop light and smell
them hot boxing in their car. That’s more likely to happen here because
cannabis has been legal here since, before it was cool. You don’t get that on
the east coast or at least in the Northeast. And it’s just kind of funny.
You’re like, that’s super intense. To be doing that whilst driving, outside of
that, it’s your normal stuff, but again, they don’t check turning signals or
brake lights here.
So there’s a lot of
people that have those things out, versus where I grew up in New York people
don’t generally have turning signals out. They don’t generally have brake
lights out because I check all that stuff.
TARANJIT: So you don’t get pulled over for like,
if a tail lights out over there.
TREVOR: you probably could be, but I don’t think
it happens frequently. Now again, I want to acknowledge the, the non elephant
in the room, which is if you’re in the wrong part of town, don’t look right.
You could probably
get pulled over for that just about anywhere, including in California. But I
haven’t, I speed all the time. I just think they have bigger fish to fry in a
city like a San Diego, which is, I think the sixth, most populous city in the
country.
BHAVNEET: While you’re very lucky because we get
pulled over for our tail lights out.
TREVOR: okay. So who got to take at first?
BHAVNEET: This is okay. So I was driving her car
for the first time because I had my learners and I was like, okay, we’re going
to the store. Let me drive like five minutes down the road. Not that far. Yeah.
So I’m driving, we just get down the hill from our house onto the main road.
And this cop was, who was going in the opposite direction, turned around and
came behind me.
And I, at first I
pulled over thinking that, oh, they have somewhere to be I’m not doing anything
wrong. And then they pulled behind me and told me that my headlights were the
wrong color.
Yeah, she’s been driving this car. It had like
purple-ish tended headlights for how long? Like probably a year. Yeah. And I
drive it for the first time when I get pulled over.
TREVOR: Was that in the Corolla?
TARANJIT: I have so many Corollas. It was like an
older cruel.
TREVOR: Yeah. That’s why that’s targeting. You
know, like if you think about like, honestly you probably a lot less likely to
get pulled over and say a red RAV4 than you are an old Corolla, it’s just, I’m
positive. That’s how it works out. They target people. So they were just
messing with you. Purple headlights.
TARANJIT: Yeah. My dad bought the car with purple
headlights. And the person you bought it from was like, oh yeah, it’s legal.
But he bought it from someone in like Baltimore city. And they’re like, they
have other problems instead of looking at someone’s headlights. And we live out
in a small town. So they have like nothing here to look at.
So they’re
probably like, oh, headlights,
TREVOR: Did you get a ticket for that?
BHAVNEET: I got a one of those. Fix it. Tickets.
TREVOR: That’s so messed up. that reminds my wife
got a, a ticket to, , similarly stupid. She was on ice, which you’ll
appreciate. She’d only been driving for maybe a year and a half. Cause she got
her license late and we were in the country on a back. We weren’t even on a
back road, we were on a side road.
It wasn’t even a
main road. It went through like a little park and she was going very slowly.
And rolled. She didn’t roll. She slid about three feet past the stop sign
because of the ice. She was going very slow. She’s not quite as old of a driver
as I am, but she drives definitely slow. She rolled through it like three feet
cop happened to come around the corner, pulled her over and gave her a ticket.
It was the first
time she’s ever been pulled over kind of like you over something very silly and
gave her a ticket. My first time I was pulled over, I was again going 80 plus
and a 55 and I got a failure to obey a traffic sign. I didn’t even get a real
ticket.
BHAVNEET: Wow.
TREVOR: It’s so messed up. She cried and I was
laughing. I thought it was so disgusting that that guy was so bored that he
would give this poor person a first time she’s ever been pulled over. Give her
a ticket for that. It’s just not like she didn’t stop. She just couldn’t stop.
TARANJIT: She had no control over that situation
at all. She decided to stop in the middle of the road. That’s different, but
like she had no choice there.
TREVOR: If Karma’s real, he got it because about
a year later, he, It’s not really karma. Nobody wins with DWI. So he got a DWI
and he drove his car through a building that same cop, you know, how small
towns work, everybody knows everything. And that dude got his do. but yeah,
nobody really went from that.
That’s messed up.
They gave you one for purple headlights. What did you fix them
or did you
leave them?
TARANJIT: Now we had to fix them. We live. So we
live in an area where there’s not much diversity and I feel like we get
targeted for things that are like stupid. we’re just like, just fix it. But
yeah, it’s just funny because I’ve been driving it for so long and I’ve been
driving so far with it.
Nobody noticed, I
guess when I was driving it and then the second she decided to drive it, she
got pulled over.
TREVOR: Um, yeah, that’s why I said it that way.
It was like, they’re, they’re targeting. If you’re anything that looks like
it’s a younger person, for sure. If it looks like a younger person’s car
they’re coming after you just because why not? And then, yeah, of course, as
soon as you throw in diversity, like cops are usually dudes that look like me
and they’re, ex army trying to mess with somebody.
I’m sorry that happened. That’s so stupid.
TARANJIT: yeah, at least it was a fix it ticket
and not like points on the license or anything.
TREVOR: if it happens again, you know, like the
thing to do is to make a whole thing out of it. So you have a podcast, you have
a platform now you’re like pull out the camera, Gilbert. If you don’t have
anything to hide, then let’s go.
TARANJIT: Yeah. Now that we know what to do
before, it was like, when you’re first in the situation, you’re like, okay.
TREVOR: Yeah. I’m scared. Every time I get
pulled over for being somebody that likes to break the law in driving, I am
always terrified when I get pulled over. Like I’m worried my dad is watching
still,
I think.
BHAVNEET: When you were describing driving on the
east coast, I know you mentioned, something about how they sold in
Pennsylvania.
TREVOR: Oh yeah. the salt is like, , it may be
similar Maryland, but it’s like a brine. It’s like a liquid. Upstate,
especially when it grew up, it was a lot of sand and a little bit of salt. The
sand helps you grip in the.
salt helps melt.
Of course that’s evolved and it’s much more salt than.
Because lawsuits,
I guess. I don’t know, but it ruins cars obviously. Well, in Pennsylvania, a
lot of nice people wouldn’t suggest moving there. in Pennsylvania where we were
near state college, it was like a liquid solution. So instead of spreading it,
they sprayed it. So it would be salty and have grit, like stones and salt in
it.
So the really cool
part about that is that grit they put in there, it will chip your car. And my
wife, my her name is Laura. I should stop calling her, my wife, but Laura loves
her car. She has an orange Subaru Crosstrek and she is obsessed with it. It’s
her dream car. She had a million dollar. She’d keep that car and those stupid
road.
Pelted all over
her car. Cause she had to drive like 45 minutes to get to work and it pelted
the car. It would chip the paint and then that liquid briny salty solution got
in there. And of course it like rusts it and tears it all to shreds. If anybody
from central Pennsylvania is listening to this, you should start a revolution
to stop that because it’s disgusting
BHAVNEET: yeah. I don’t know what they, they do
spray stuff on our roads as well to treat it. So I don’t think it’s exactly the
same as Pennsylvania. I think Pennsylvania just does their own weird thing
because they also do their roads weird. Like we can tell, we don’t even have to
look at the sign. We can know, by the way the road changes we’ve entered
Pennsylvania,
welcome to
Pennsylvania.
TREVOR: it’s been, I’ve tried to block out a
good portion of my time there. So remind me what they do with the roads.
BHAVNEET: Well, I mean like the, when we’re on
merit, Lind Rez, we’re like, oh, it’s so smooth. And so nice. The minute we get
into Pennsylvania, everything’s like broken. We’re like a welcome to
Pennsylvania.
TREVOR: Yeah, where does my tax money go? I
remember thinking that frequently in PA, like the roads are trash, that’s also
a solid thing to, you know, it just ruins everything. Yeah. Very bad. PA
socks.
BHAVNEET: Let’s go a little bit more into you as a
driver. What would you say is your biggest driving pet?
TREVOR: when I’m the one actually driving
it’s a toss up and
maybe a tie between the old trusty people not using their signal. it’s maybe a
three-way tie people staying in the left lane. Drives me bonkers. I’m a terrible
passenger. Cause I will tell somebody that they’re in the wrong lane still. And
also a safety thing back the defensive driving.
My stepdad taught
me this. When you’re going to pass a tractor trailer on a freeway, you should
wait until the car ahead of you gets all the way past it before you attempt to
pass them. And once he explained it to my younger self, it made perfect sense,
but most people don’t do that. when they don’t do that, I immediately start
seeing everything bad happening in my head.
So that stuff
drives me nuts. And then when I’m a passenger, it’s tailgating, I get so
anxious and angry and behaviorly childish. We can ask. She’s not here, but we
could ask Laura, she will vouch for me. Like you need to leave a whole car
length. Otherwise I’m, I’m panicking a little.
BHAVNEET: I’m the same way I leave excessive space
between me and the car in front of me. Cause I kind of also like, I don’t know.
It’s just I always think of all the different things that could happen. And I
was like, well, I don’t want anything bad to happen. I think I worry
excessively they’ve rubs off on her and she’s like, oh my God, stop panicking.
TREVOR: yeah, I I’m on the same page with you
also, , did you know, at least in New York where I learned how to drive that if
you get rear-ended and then your rear end the car in front of you, you could
also get a ticket.
TARANJIT: Even though it’s not your fault.
TREVOR: You were following too close
TARANJIT: That makes sense.
TREVOR: validation. Granted always leave extra
space.
TARANJIT: Yeah. When you’re talking about the 18
wheelers, I feel like that’s something that needs to be taught better to other
drivers, because I see so many people like cutting them off they can’t stop as
quickly as you can stop in a small little car. You’re putting your own life in
danger by doing that.
TREVOR: Yeah, you’re not just going to have a
fender bender with one of those things either. , you can have some leeway with
another car sometimes, but with a big truck, not, and it’s silly why you would
do that. Also, we have so many supply chain issues. Don’t make it worse, but
I’m doing the job.
TARANJIT: Yeah, exactly.
TREVOR: You can probably do a whole podcast just
on tractor trailer drivers.
BHAVNEET: Oh, definitely.
TARANJIT: going back to the first time you started
driving, how would you describe your first time driving experience and what was
your test? Like?
TREVOR: Woof. Early driving memories, once I got
to the legal age where I had to actually learn how to drive the appropriate
way, because I had only driven in the fields for most of my life, on four
wheelers, primarily, and with old trucks, not in traffic.
So I actually
failed my first driver’s test. Again, I started driving very early, so it was
real embarrassing when I failed the first one, but it was because I couldn’t
negotiate a left turn in traffic. Do you know how many times I had to negotiate
a left turn? When I was going through the fields in a pickup like.
I still remember
the moment I failed. I was pulling up to the intersection and the little town I
grew up near and there’s a car coming and I was like doing the thing
and he’s like, you
need to go. And I was hesitating because I didn’t want to go. It seemed
dangerous to pull out in front of another car, even though it was kind of far
away.
And that’s why he
found me. Cause I hesitated to turn. I don’t know, man still kind of rips me a
little, I also sucked at parallel parking. Who’s good at that anyways. My dad
set up cones for me in the yard and stuff to practice and I still failed. Did
you both pass your first time around?
TARANJIT: she did. I did it, it took me three
tries because of the parallel parking.
TREVOR: okay. I shouldn’t fail people for that.
There’s self-driving cars now, and also
if you don’t like parallel
parking, what do you do now? You just avoid parallel parking. You just find a
parking garage. It’s not a necessary thing for driving. It’s so dumb.
TARANJIT: Yeah. I had to take it in a van, so that
like made it really difficult to parallel park because it was a big van in a
small space, would be worst instructor that I had
TREVOR: Yeah. Especially in a van. That’s not
fair. Like handicapped points.
TARANJIT: You want to hear the craziest part? The
lady almost didn’t let me take my task because she couldn’t fit the seatbelt
around her and said that I shouldn’t bring an extender next time.
TREVOR: Oh, That’s just, again, I feel bad for
that person, because that is a very sad world to live in. not because she’s
bigger overweight, but because you now blame other people for that type of
stuff, like why would I have a seatbelt extender? I don’t have any friends to
pick up that need it. I don’t have any family members that need it.
Maybe you should have one. Like if you want to
be you, like, that’s great. Bring your seatbelt extender. what did, what did
She do?
TARANJIT: the way she said it is time. Like if I
didn’t pass the next time I needed to bring an extended, just the way that she
made that statement. And I’m like, you should be the one to carry one around,
if you know you need one, like how is someone supposed to like, okay, I’m going
for my driver’s test.
I need my license.
I need, I need a seatbelt extender.
TREVOR: Yeah.
in my glasses. I
want a glass of water. It’s a long trip. Oh Yeah, The seatbelt extender So did
she manage to get it on for the test or did. she just leave it
TARANJIT: Yeah, she did. But then I failed the
parallel parking.
TREVOR: Yeah,
BHAVNEET: that.
TREVOR: Yeah. I’m sorry. that.
was your
experience. That’s silly to say the least.
TARANJIT: Yeah, exactly. The second time I ended
up getting her too, and then she almost failed me because the flag blew in the
wind and almost touched the car.
TREVOR: Oh, you did it in like a controlled
environment.
TARANJIT: Yeah.
TREVOR: Oh, I had to do it actually in town.
TARANJIT: Oh, yeah. I think they stopped doing
that after a while.
BHAVNEET: Maybe it hit someone.
TREVOR: I mean, definitely questionable. Again,
I grew up in a small town. I love my family, but thinking things really far
ahead is maybe not a strength where I grew up. I got love for Penn Yan if
you’re listening, but that’s probably a mistake. Let people take them down. I
never thought about it that way.
That’s so dumb.
Can you imagine.
BHAVNEET: I was like, oh, you didn’t do it in a
controlled environment where you can’t hurt someone.
TREVOR: No. That’s why I failed is negotiate a
left turn when there was a car coming for me, it was the first time I had faced
that. , and I was terrified. Turning left in an intersection is I think always
terrifying. Even still.
It’s embarrassing
to sit in the middle of the intersection.
TARANJIT: Especially when someone’s sitting behind
you and then you’re like, I could have went, I could have went.
TREVOR: Yeah. And then if you decide not to you
talk yourself into why you didn’t rationalize it and you’re like, you should
wait back there because I kept you safe.
TARANJIT: Yeah. I don’t think they will see it
that way. But speaking of, angry drivers you mentioned you had an accident
story to share.
TREVOR: It didn’t involve anybody else.
Thankfully, I have a couple accidents, but the most impressive one was a back
road. And I described it in nauseated details in my submission, because I
figured I had like really staunch competition. So I wanted to seem like a
really good storyteller, so we could probably publish it afterwards.
But the short end
of the story is I took back roads to go to my mom’s. My parents were divorced.
They live like 20 minutes apart. Which again, I was very fortunate for. And a
lot of times when I was going from my dad’s to my mom’s house, I would take the
back roads. I’m not really sure why it was just like a slower pace kind of cut
cross lots instead of going around everything.
but it was dirt
roads and it was at the top of the hill and there was this. Where the road is
like a one and a half lane road. It wasn’t even full two and no lines or
anything like that. And then it changes over at the county line, , you know,
like a county line, especially where y’all are at in a smaller town.
The road will
change in some way, shape or form. You’ll notice the change. Well, this went from
stone and gravel to dirt it was a cold day, a cold time a year. It was, 45 ish
degrees. I want to say that day, because there was still snow on the ground,
but everything else was melted at my dad’s house.
So I wasn’t
worried about ice. I wasn’t worried about the conditions of the road. I didn’t
think anything of it because it was one of those warm, sunny days after the
snow. You’re just not thinking of it. So I’m going down this road going to fast
per normal. I’m driving a red Pontiac Bonneville, which was an awesome car.
It was so clutch
had like red dashboard, everything was red. It was so cool. But it did go fast.
I tacked that car once and I come over over this little, just ever so slight, I
guess you call it a Knoll, like a slight hill. It wasn’t really a hill it was
probably two, 300 yards to the stop sign at the end of the road.
So I come up over
this Knoll, I see the stop sign. So just mentally I’m like, okay, I gotta start
to slow down because there’s no intersection. It’s like a stop sign and you go
left or you go right. And there’s a field across the road. And I started to
slow down, and my wheels locked up and if your wheels lock up and you’re still
moving at 45, 50 miles an hour, that’s not great.
And I was on a
dirt road. The whole thing was like that. So I came up over the no having a
nice, nice day and I hit the brakes and I started to slide and I just kept
sliding. no slowing down, no stopping. Like you could try to turn the wheel,
but if you turn the wheel, that could get bad too. It just seemed like the
longest, the longest distance that I slid.
Cause I was pardon
the expression, pooping my pants, the hallway. And I got to the intersection
and I went off the road. Very grateful that it wasn’t a bigger drop, but it was
a little bit of a drop. And there was a barbed wire fence from like an
abandoned pasture. I slid under the fence somehow still bizarre to me.
So the barbed wire
went up and over my pretty red Bonneville and left scratch marks all over it.
and just stop. Cause there was probably two feet of snow where I was, because
it had drifted there a little bit. And the kicker of the story was I grew up getting
stuck all the time. Again. I mentioned four wheelers and snowmobiles.
My dad had to
rescue me so many times. I did the walk of shame so many times back to the
house because I had gotten stuck somewhere in the woods on everything. Four
Wheeler, snowmobiles, cars, tractors, all the above. So the last thing I wanted
to do was call him and tell him I got stuck because I ran the car off the side
of the road.
I was terrified.
So I didn’t in this was thankfully in a time with cell phones, it was probably
a flip phone. It definitely wasn’t in a time of just texting people didn’t
exist back then. So I tried to find like a local neighbor that had a tractor,
but I was also kind of nervous to walk up to a front door.
None of that
worked out. And I probably waited an hour and a half, two hours to finally call
somebody, but I called my stepdad said, because I knew he wouldn’t yell at me
and make me feel that, and he showed up and he had like a little Ford ranger
and pulled it, pulled the car out.
, but it was this
whole ordeal, so embarrassing, it was also really, really scary because I slid
for probably a quarter mile. Just zero control, ice dirt. Didn’t anybody get
hurt? Thankfully it just hurt my pride
BHAVNEET: That must have been like in that moment,
like slow-mo like you see in the movies and you’re like, oh, that doesn’t seem
realistic. But if you’re actually in the moment, time actually does seem like
as slow down.
TREVOR: So slow. That’s why I like the length of
the road really isn’t that long. But as I visualize it in that moment, it
seemed like so far away, just slowly sliding, like, oh, I’ll get gripped
somewhere. Never got any grip, which by the way is true brain science, a little
off the rails. But they say that the more memories you make, like true memories
the longer time seems because your brain has more checkpoints to remember. So,
it literally extends time in your head. There’s scientific proof for that
somewhere.
TARANJIT: So, where did your dad ever find out
about the car?
TREVOR: Oh yeah. I pretty sure he Did
eventually, but I definitely didn’t tell him the next day It was a while
before.
TARANJIT: Did you learn anything from that moment
of like driving in snow or ice or let you apply today or you would give us
advice to someone else that’s driving.
TREVOR: the dirt road thing is definitely the
variable that w that was not accounted for ahead of time. Everything else made
sense. It was, it was a warm enough day. There shouldn’t have been ice anywhere
else. And there wasn’t there the road. Not drive it like that wet where
everything has melted and you feel pretty confident.
And again, it was
like a sunshiny beautiful day, but the dirt road was the variable that I didn’t
account for and why it didn’t melt. I couldn’t tell you other than probably the
snow packs down into that, substrate a little bit better than it would. There’s
a word for you substrate it packs down into there a little bit better than it
would like pavement.
So it would take
longer for it to melt and break up. But certainly if you ever find yourself
with an opportunity to take a back road and a dirt road, you should do it.
That’s my advice. just go slow and take it in because there’s not a lot of dirt
roads. And it’s a unique experience. Especially if you have a four wheel drive,
you can have a little fun.
think ahead, have
antilock brakes have good tires. Yeah. There’s a lot of good advice. There have
good tires.
BHAVNEET: Very important.
TREVOR: Yeah. Especially in the snow. Don’t miss
that.
TARANJIT: Yeah. We get it all the time.
So switching gears
a little bit, , let’s talk a little bit about the future of driving. What are
your thoughts on self-driving cars? And is this something that you would be
interested in getting into.
TREVOR: Yeah, I think it’d be cool to check out
a self-driving car. It’d be pretty terrifying, but it probably leave enough
space in front of you. So that would be helpful. That’s a great start. Like the
car would know enough to not get up to their bumper, Laura in knocking me a
panic attack, you know, that would be great.
You could also
talk back, you know, like when GPS was new, you could talk back to it and that
was such a big deal because you didn’t feel bad. So that would be nice. But
self-driving cars is in short, I think stupid. it doesn’t solve anything except
for accidents, which is a big deal.
It’d be great if we could reduce the number of
accidents, but I think that that’s putting a band-aid regardless of how you
look at it. So if you look at it from an efficiency standpoint, it’s a bandaid.
If you look at it from a safety standpoint, it’s a band. Even though I grew up
without public transportation.
The couple of
times I’ve experienced it. It was revolutionary in short. So I don’t think
self-driving car selves, a lot of that. And have you ever seen the movie
minority report? It’s older. It’s got Tom cruise in it it’s worth a watch
because they have some like self-driving cars in it. And the difference in that
movie is the self-driving cars in the future are like slot cars.
Where there’s essentially like a track that
your car goes on. So you’re going down the freeway. And instead of having like
all the motion or the start and stop everything’s run by that track. And you’re
just sitting there. I thought that was kind of an interesting concept, but
eventually the guy Tom cruise in the movie has to go on.
The the main road
and he’s driving his car. He’s self-driving his car himself. So I think
there’ll always be a need for manual driving. I guess you’d call it for driving
your own car. But I think shy of out in the middle of nowhere, public
transportation should be the norm, not self-driving cars because of that is not
going to solve traffic.
It’s not going to
solve wastefulness. It’s just stupid. It’s a great way to make some money for
Elan,
BHAVNEET: That’s a very interesting take. I don’t
think we’ve ever had anyone Say that bell self-driving cars, which, I mean, it
is really important to think about that. , especially in cities, like you said,
there is public transportation and they’ll solve traffic problems.
TREVOR: and accidents
TARANJIT: Yeah. And it’s kind of like you’re being
driven. So what’s the difference between getting on public transport and having
a car drive you
TREVOR: The
other people. and
an entitlement, honestly. I mean, it’s a, it’s a luxury to have a car. I
realized I had a car my whole life. but I also realized that it’s extremely
luxurious and entitled to have this huge machine wrapped around you be the only
person in it. like imagine the amount of dollars and hours and people, brain
energy that goes into over the span of history, building one car.
And you’re driving
that down the road by yourself. Like what? That’s so dumb.
BHAVNEET: Well, there’s the end of our show, you
know, drive with us driving so dumb.
TREVOR: It’s just the it’s not a very great
investment of your time. There’s a good chance. You’re going to get hurt. You
shouldn’t do it, but I’m going to go drive to the store after we’re off the
phone.
BHAVNEET: Bonus question time. Are you ready?
TREVOR: Yes.
BHAVNEET: If you could make one, a new driving
law, what would it be?
TREVOR: No. I’m going to go access central here.
You know, I’m not going to go super existential. I’m going to pull it back a
little closer because I feel very strongly about it. I think if you get one
DWI, you should lose your license for an extended period of time. There should
not be?
a two strikes or
three strikes.
If you get one,
you should lose your license. And I think that there should be more, I don’t
want to say severe penalties because I think That’s the wrong message maybe.
But I think that culturally needs to shift around what it means to, to drive
while distracted or drive while drinking, because kids younger people, you
know, 15, 16, 17, 18, like before you get to a certain age, you can turn
anything into a ha moment.
Honestly, there
are people where I’m from that called DWI, a safe driving award. And that is so
wildly insulting to everybody who has lost someone to that. And there’s a. And
the same could be said for texting fill in the blank here. So I wish that there
was not only some more restrictive penalties around those things, but I also
wish for a more cultural shift around how we understand how that impacts
people.
Sorry, I just
brought the whole thing down a little bit, but I would like to save more
brothers and sisters and siblings and kids,
TARANJIT: that’s actually a really good point that
you brought up because I feel like most people don’t understand the effect of
driving distracted or under the influence until something dangerous or
something serious happens. And then they’re like, oh no, like then they learned
the lesson. But if that was like, put in your mind beforehand and you actually
like understood the reality of what could happen, then I feel like there would
be less people who would do it.
So I do like that
law.
TREVOR: Yeah. I mean, it does go to some, the
distracted part goes to some really big existentially things like what social
media and what cell phones like their impact on the, the science. I don’t like
to just throw anecdotal stuff out. I like to throw stuff that’s actually based
in science somewhere. Just going to poke that bear real fast.
there is a lot of
brain science in psychology behind why people are so stuck to their phone,
myself included, you know, like what social media does to give you the head of,
I think it’s dopamine to make you keep coming back for more. So, even, even to
your point, if you had the foresight to think, oh, I know that driving
distracted could truly ruin someone’s life and their life and ruin the life of
everybody around them for the next day.
Like That’s that’s
functionally. What happens if someone gets in a, in a really big situation like
that? I think people still might do it because the lower, like the addiction is
so strong
TARANJIT: like every day on, if we just go out on
the road, most of the people are not paying attention. You’re like, I’m going,
I don’t even know what to do. Get away from me. Thanks.
TREVOR: Yeah. That’s why we should promote more
podcasts. Put your phone down, hook the Bluetooth up. Listen to a good podcast.
. And also nobody cares about your Tik TOK videos for the record.
TARANJIT: Behind the wheel, your only job shall be
to drive and nothing else.
TREVOR: Yeah. One, one goal get home safe and
don’t speed.
BHAVNEET: Well, thank you so much for coming on
today
TARANJIT: Before we let you go, we do want to give
you the opportunity to plug anything.
TREVOR: Every part of me wants to make a pun
about plugging in an electric vehicle, but none of us have one. So I’m just
going to leave it be, there’s a lot of plugins out here. I have a podcast
called common leaders and the greatest thing that I could plug would be less
out of check it out. I mean, it’d be great if you want to check out my podcast,
don’t get me wrong.
but it is all
about spotlighting leaders from regular everyday life. I got really annoyed
with the fact that most leadership in academia. So when you hear about the word
leader or leader training, it’s almost always aimed at a supervisor or manager
or somebody in business. And I think that that’s kind of bologna to keep it PG.
I think there’s
parents who are leaders. I think you can be a leader in your family, your
community, your church. It can be a leader on the road. Uh, you can be a leader
in a lot of ways without ever walking into a job or an office.
So I built the
podcast, common leaders around the notion that I’m primarily going to have
people on who are nominated by someone else. Like people don’t get to come on
my podcast just to plug themselves. I think that’s cheap and there’s enough of
it. If somebody is listening to this and you know, an awesome leader or
somebody in your world who you really look up to and just makes your day
better, I would love it.
If you submit them
to common leaders.com and maybe I’ll talk to them for the podcast. I really
just want to spotlight people who have excellence and have something to share
and teach us.
BHAVNEET: Oh, that’s really awesome. We’ll be sure
to check it out.
thank you so much
for coming on today. It was really fun talking to you. Like, who knew where the
time went? You so many crazy stories.
TREVOR: Yeah. Yeah. I had so much fun. Thank you
so much for having me for having this platform. I think it’s wonderful that you
just share stories.
and if anybody can
get anything out of it, I think that’s super cool. But at the very least I had
a great.
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BHAVNEET: we hope you enjoy listening to Trevor’s
stories.
As much as we
enjoyed chatting with him about his crazy driving experience. Come chat with us
on Instagram, at drive with us podcast and share your farm driving experiences.
If you have any, and whether you can relate to any of Trevor’s stories and be
sure to stay tuned until the end of this episode, to hear a sneak peek of next
week’s episode with Jessica an American living in India,
TARANJIT: she shared with us, her experiences of
adopting the Indian culture, specifically the driving culture and how it
differs from driving in America.
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TARANJIT: Thank you for choosing to
drive with us and we’ll see you all next week.
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JESSICA: I be shaking, I were driving from Chicago to Indiana, right around Christmas time. And all of a sudden, it’s white out, like He slams on the brakes. We get sucked into the median and , this EMT, goes, get out of the car, get out of the car. We start getting out of the car and this car it just coming right at us, and I see him get smashed between the cars.