His Car Flew Off Hill + Went Airborne – David Bossert (Transcript – S5E7)

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DAVID: I was out on the east end of long island
with a friend of mine. And, , we got off of the road onto a, dirt fire road ,
and we literally shot off the top of a hill.

, we were
literally airborne and as the car was coming down, I remember standing on the
glove box, looking down.

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BHAVNEET: Welcome back to another episode of drive
with us podcast. Hi Bhavneet.

TARANJIT: And I’m Taranjit and we’re super excited
to have you ride with us as our drivers. Take us on some adventurous drives
around the world.

BHAVNEET: A little quick car keeping before we
meet today’s. We’re starting to line up guests for seasons six. So if you or
anybody, you know, would be interested in coming on the show, either fill out
the interest form in the show notes below, or visit our website. Drive with us
podcast.com.

 We look forward to hearing from.

TARANJIT: And now let’s meet today’s driver. David
Bossert from California. David Bossert, an award-winning artists, filmmaker and
author is a 32 year veteran of the Walt Disney company where he contributed his
talents to. framed Roger rabbit, the little mermaid beauty and the beast
Aladdin, and many more David is considered an authority in Disney art and
animation history and has been awarded a us patent in 2018 for his invention.
Parallax base monoscopic rendering followed by an additional us patent in 2020
for varying display content based on viewpoint.

He continued to
explore transformative immersive experiences through writing and publishing
numerous books, program notes, and dozens of articles on animation. Here’s
David. 

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BHAVNEET: Welcome Dave to Drive With Us Podcast.
Thank you so much for joining us today.

DAVID: Hey, it’s my pleasure. I’m I’m happy to
be here.

TARANJIT: how would you describe your relationship
with driving and describe yourself as a.

DAVID: I love driving. I really absolutely love
just getting in the car and going for a drive. , and I feel very comfortable
behind, , the wheel. I would describe myself as , probably, , a. Heavy foot. ,
I like to go fast, , and living out in Los Angeles on the freeways, , even
though the, speed limit is 65 on the freeways.

most people are
doing 75 80 out here. , which suits me just fine. I like to go with the flow of
traffic. , and I, I would say that I’m a, I’m a.

very defensive
driver, but I’m also slightly aggressive.

TARANJIT: Does it not ever? I don’t know. I feel
like if I went that much above the speed limit, I’d be constantly worried.
Officer catching me, do you not have that year? And you’re just like, nah.

DAVID: No. You know, I think if you go with the
flow of traffic, you’re doing pretty good. My rule when I’m driving on the
freeways, , regardless of how fast I’m driving, if there’s at least one or two
cars going faster than me, I’m okay. And also out here in Los Angeles, I’ve
just resigned myself to the fact that I will get a speeding ticket every three
to four years.

and I’m okay with
that. And I always do, by the way, I always do, , traffic school. So I don’t
get points against my license.

TARANJIT: well, I guess as long as you’re okay
with that, that’s interesting.

BHAVNEET: It’s inevitable.

DAVID: Yeah, it really is. It’s inevitable.
And, you know, with the amount of cars that are driving on the roads today, ,
there just isn’t enough, , highway patrol or state troopers, depending on where
you live. , there’s just not enough of them on the roads. So the likelihood is
that. , if you’ve got an Eagle eye, when you’re driving, if you’re looking in
your rear view mirror for , the troopers or the highway patrol cars, , you
usually going to be in pretty good shape.

TARANJIT: Yeah. The key there is, if you’re paying
attention, there’s a lot of people who don’t pay attention while they’re
driving.

DAVID: You’re absolutely right. I mean, there’s
so many people doing so many other things on the roads today. And most of it,
it involves people texting and on their phones and, , it’s just craziness. You
know, I actually, a couple of months ago had somebody hit me from behind
because they drifted out of their lane cause they were on their phone.

, and it’s crazy.
I don’t use my phone when I’m driving. , and I do the Bluetooth, so I have the
phone hooked through, , through the car. And if a call comes in, , I will, ,
just hit the button on the steering wheel. And I, and I could just talk while
I’m driving, but I’m not holding a device.

, and, for me, ,
when, when you’re behind the wheel of a car, you should be paying attention to
the roads. ,

BHAVNEET: exactly. Especially out there in LA. I
mean, like with the amount of traffic there is, I’m surprised you’re even able
to go like 70 miles an

hour on a highway.

DAVID: Well, I have to tell you, , there are
times when you can, , drive like that, but yeah, you’re right. There is a lot
of traffic, but since the pandemic hit, the traffic is a lot less, , because
people are working at home and they’re not getting in their cars and driving to
the.

In fact, one of
the big problems that’s happening out here is because there’s less traffic.
People are actually driving even faster. , and I, I’ve been seeing reports of
people getting stopped doing 110 miles an hour on the roads. And I know in New
York, because I was just there for the holidays in New York.

, they’re actually
running television ads, telling people to slow down. that’s been a by-product
of, of the reduced traffic in these metropolitan areas is that people are
driving faster.

BHAVNEET: That. And I feel like the people who
started driving again have maybe forgotten

a little bit about
driving.

DAVID: Yeah.

 It may be that. And, I, I just think that, , ,
the cars today are more powerful, , even, these, , electric vehicles, Tesla,
cars and stuff can really. To speed very quickly. And, , people are, , taking
advantage of that. And one of the problems is that a lot of those folks that
are going at a high rate of speed, they really don’t have the driving skills to
handle the vehicle at that kind of a speed.

So, , if you make
a quick move. At that kind of a speed you’re going to lose control of the car
and probably flip it. , and I’ve seen a number of cars flipped on the freeway
out here in Los Angeles over the years. And it was all because somebody was
trying to, , , all of a sudden, , make a quick move over to try and get to an
exit that they weren’t paying attention and they were gonna miss their exit.

 When you’re traveling. That rate of speed. And
you, you make a turn or try to try to, , make a lane change, , very quickly. ,
a lot of these people have lost control of the cars and they wind up flipping
it.

BHAVNEET: Yeah, it’s

very scary. Like
getting behind a wheel, especially. I like sports cars or cars like that.
Speaking of crazy drivers, what would you say is one of your top three craziest

driving
experiences?

DAVID: I have to tell you about, , the number
one craziness. Cause when I look back on it, I would absolutely say, what was I
thinking. But I used to, when I was 12, 13 years old, I taught myself how to
drive my father’s car without his knowledge. I would come home in, in
mid-afternoon from elementary school.

And, , my father
was at the office in New York city. And my mother, , had gone back to work at
that time. So she wasn’t home. And I used to be able to get into, , my father’s
car. , and I could start it with a screwdriver. I didn’t need the key, so I
could start the car with a screwdriver and I would drive around, town with the
car, with a friend of mine, , in the passenger seat.

, and if we drove
too much, I’d pull into a gas station and put like a gallon of gas in the car
and bring it back to the house. The first time I got behind the wheel of a car,
I knew the basics, but , you’re sort of learning under fire, ,

TARANJIT: Did you ever get caught

DAVID: no no, my, my, my parents never found
out about it until, , decades later. But, , the funny thing was though that
when I was 15 and a half, I was eligible to get a learner’s permit.

And my father took
me out on a Sunday morning out.

to like an
industrial area that had large parking lots that were empty. And he was going
to teach me how to drive and you have to realize my father was a terrible
drawer. My father grew up in Greenwich village, New York, and he didn’t get his
driver’s license until he was 28.

 He failed his driver’s test three times before
he got a license. So his entire life, he was a terrible driver. And here he is
trying to teach me how to drive. And he had no idea that I had already been
driving for several years, so he’s. Going through the motions of showing me,
how to start the car, how to put it in, drive the gas and brake pedal and all
of that kind of stuff.

And then he said,
okay, get behind the wheel and , let’s see what you can do. And I. Started the
car. I put it in drive. I had my elbow out the window on the door and I was
driving with one hand around the parking lot and he was just utterly amazed. He
just thought I was so mechanically inclined and I just take into it like a duck
to water.

BHAVNEET: I’m curious, it’s a natural.

DAVID: It was really kind of comical. Next in
line, I, I have to say was, I was, I was out on the east end of long island
with a friend of mine. And, , we got off of the road onto a, dirt fire road ,
and he had the. The car and he was going fast along this fire road. And we literally
shot off the top of a hill.

Them in the car
was airborne. It was like something out of the Dukes of hazards or something,
and I know I’m dating myself when I mentioned a show like that, but, , yeah, we
were, we were literally airborne and as the car was coming down, I remember
standing on the glove box, looking down.

, then the car,
landed into, it was, like Sandy soil. The car dove in and bounced out and there
was no damage to the car, but it was very jarring. And, , it was scary. I have
to say it was scary for a moment.

 But afterwards, when you survive, something
like that, you’re just laughing, ?

BHAVNEET: I surprised the car, like nothing
happened to it.

Wow.

DAVID: Yeah, it was kinda crazy. And the other
time where I was probably. , excited, but starting to verge on, fear, was I was
in another friend’s car. And again, , these were souped up muscle cars and we
were on ocean Parkway, on the south shore of long island.

, and he got the
car up to about 120 miles hour. And that was hair-raising cause I had never
gone that fast before , when we got up to that speed, I was, I was really
starting to hold on and, and starting to worry,

BHAVNEET: and now, you know, in California, it’s
like, oh, that’s

another thing.

DAVID: Yeah. Now, now in California, there’s
there’s cars on a regular basis blowing by you doing, a hundred or 110 miles an
hour.

TARANJIT: Speaking of California, how would you
describe the drivers there? And I know you’ve been to several other states. So
how would you compare drivers in California to other states?

DAVID: generally speaking, I think California
drivers are terrible, , compared to other states?

and I’ve actually
driven all over the world. , and I have to say, , in California, I’ve never
seen so many people that like, when you put on your turn signal, , your
blinker.

To, to try and get
over into a lane. I’ve never seen so many people speed up to try and close the
gap to not let you in, which is crazy because in other states, , whether it’s
New York or Delaware or, , down in Florida, Or the Carolinas, , oftentimes when
I put on my blinker to change lanes or, to get over, most people lift their
foot off the accelerator and give you a little bit of space so that you can do
it.

But out here,
there’s this craziness to it where people are, , speeding up when you put your
signal on , which probably leads to why so many people aren’t using their
signals or blinker, to change lanes because maybe they’re fed up with people, ,
constantly speeding up on them to, to close the gap, and not let them in.

BHAVNEET: Like they

must be in front.
Nobody can get in front of.

DAVID: Yeah, it’s nutty, and , when there’s
traffic, when there’s like a lane ending and people have to merge over the
traffic would actually move so much better. If people. Would adhere to the
zipper method, meaning that , , one car goes, another car pops in another car,
goes, another car pops in and, it’s like closing a zipper.

If everybody just
gave a little bit of space, the. The traffic would actually move better, ,
rather than, , being jammed up the way it is half the time. I do think that out
here, people aren’t as, courteous, if you will, on the road, it’s sort of, ,
every person for themselves mentality on that.

 And half of them are doing something they
shouldn’t be doing, , like on their phone or, just not paying attention. I’ve
seen people with newspapers open, , as they’re driving, , which is just crazy.

TARANJIT: I feel like to an extent we have some of
those similarities here in Maryland. Not probably as bad as it is out in LA,
but I’ve noticed the blinker thing here too. Where if you put it on, people
will not let you in. They’ll try to close the gap. And then also the merge
points is the worst part. I feel like the left lane just keeps going.

It never lets the
right lane merge in

DAVID: Yeah. And again, I, I have to say like,
when I’ve been over in the Delaware beaches area, Rehobeth beach and Lewis, you
know, Southern Delaware, people have been generally courteous. I. , and , it
just makes it a much more pleasant experience.

 And this whole pandemic, , I’ve, , been
working out of my home, like so many other people, but I’ve been going and
getting in my car like two, three times a day. And just going for a drive, just
get out on the road and just go for a drive because I, I enjoy it so much. I
mean, I find it very relaxing, especially when I’m in places like Southern
Delaware or out on the east end of long island. Whereas this last traffic,
depending on the time of year, obviously.

 It just, I find it very relaxing and enjoyable
to be out on the road and, and sorta touring and listening to the radio.
There’s nothing like it

it’s just, it’s a
wonderful experience.

BHAVNEET: I completely agree with you. I work from
home now too, and I just like every couple of days in the week, we’ll go out
for a drive. Just, just because I enjoy driving too. kind of miss it. So
that’s. No, no destination in mind, just like

drive around for a
little bit.

DAVID: And that’s it. I lived in Ireland for a
little while for about a year and, every Saturday morning we would jump in the
car and we would just go for a drive we’d have a map and we’d say, oh, well,
this kind of looks cool down. There’s there’s some abandoned Abby down here. Go
and explore, just meander around the countryside and go down these small
country lanes and discover stuff. And

that’s, to me, the
fun of, getting out on the road.

BHAVNEET: Speaking of Ireland, they do drive on
the left-hand side. Right?

Opposites.

DAVID: Yes. And when I was over there, if
nobody was on the road, I found myself drifting to the opposite side and I’d
catch myself when it see a car turn onto the road or something. I’m like, oh,
I’m on the wrong side of the road. It does take a little bit of getting used
to, I have to say.

TARANJIT: Did you ever get used to it? And did you
ever, the opposite when he came back to the states?

DAVID: I never did the opposite when I came
back to the states and I did eventually get used to it , over in Ireland,
driving around. But, again, it’s really a matter of, of having to, , really pay
attention and not do anything else, but, , have your hands on the wheel and
drive, , and be aware of what you’re doing?

BHAVNEET: Yeah, I can only imagine how hard it
would be. Like practically relearning, how to drive in the opposite. Like
everything that,

you know,

DAVID: Yeah, I think, , it’s not that,

bad, but it does
require concentration.

TARANJIT: Were there any driving law or driving
practices that were different in Ireland versus here in the U S.

DAVID: Over there, there were a lot more in the
way of roundabout. , which we’re starting to see more here in, in this country.
,, even out here in California, the there’s a, there’s a little area that’s
known as old town, new hall, , near where I.

And they’ve put in
a roundabout at one end of the village. , and it really like, I think when you
get used to using a roundabout, , it really does keep the traffic moving at a
nice pace, as opposed to just having , traffic lights. , and I actually do like
the roundabouts, but again, I like the roundabouts when everybody knows how to
use a roundabout, , cause there’s so many people when they come to, when they
come to a roundabout in this country, there’s so many people that like stop.

They’re like, I
don’t know what to do, the whole point of a roundabout, isn’t the not really
stopped, but to kind of yield and merge into the roundabout. , and it takes
some getting used to,

BHAVNEET: yeah. We’ve, we’ve had a couple in
around area. And like you said, it’s great. As long as people know how to use
it. And I don’t think people

here know how to
use it.

DAVID: Yeah. And that’s the whole thing, ,
they’re great when there’s not very much in the way of traffic, , because you
can just, swing right into it.

BHAVNEET: Let’s

switch gears a
little bit and to more of what kind of driver you are. What would you say is
your biggest

driving? Pep P.

DAVID: Aside from people on their phones
constantly because anytime I come to a traffic light where a red light where I
have to stop, if I’m behind a couple of cars, invariably, when the traffic
signal turns green, the cars in front of you, , one of the cars is just sitting
there because the person’s buried in their phone.

, and I, the thing
I want to say to everybody that’s listening is you’re not that important.
You’re not that important that you have to be on your phone that much, you can
wait until you get to your destination and then look at your phone and respond
to an email. what somebody is saying or liking on Facebook is really not
important when you’re driving your car.

 That’s one pet peeve. My other pet peeve is.
That’s so many people do not use their signals. And in some states it’s
actually the law, in New York state, it’s the law that you should be using your
signal to change lanes. And if you don’t, you could get pulled over by, by a
state trooper.

 , the blinker is a signal to the other drivers
around you, that you’re going to do something different.

You’re going to
change lanes. You’re going to turn out a corner, , whatever it is. So use your
signals, , and don’t get buried in your phone while you were at a red light.

TARANJIT: Yeah. I feel like the signal one is a
big one that a lot of people say, and it’s also the worst when someone moves
and then puts on their signal, it’s like, okay, well, what was the point of
that? I already know you moved over.

DAVID: Yeah, , it’s really puzzling some of the
things that people do on the roads. I often have said to myself, well, I’m not
going to be surprised by anything. I see. And, , I’m frankly surprised on a
regular basis when I see, people do the craziest things , and I’m seeing more
and more people crash the car.

 I just returned from, New York where I spent
the holidays and when I arrived, I got a rental car and I was driving along one
of the parkways on long island. And, , somebody had flown past me. Had to have
been doing a hundred and, , I came upon traffic slowing down, five, 10 minutes
later, and this person lost control of the car and had wrapped their car around
the tree.

And frankly, I
don’t think they even survived. , , it was that. I saw the car and I thought to
myself, there’s no way the person survived that crash. , and I wasn’t even in
New York and now. , and then a few days later, , I was driving down to the
beach.

Driving down the
Parkway to the beach and there’s no traffic. Literally and I’m coming along and
I see lights up ahead, a flashing lights, couple of

new York state
troopers were stopped. , and somebody on the other side of the Parkway going
in, the opposite direction, a single car crashed their car completely totaled.
And you sitting there wondering. What were they doing? There was no one else on
the road did they fall asleep? Or I, I, I couldn’t figure out what had
happened, but they completely totaled the car and all the airbags had gone off

and, when all the
airbags go off in a. The insurance company totals the car because it’s more
expensive to try and put new airbags and,

TARANJIT: yeah. That’s, it’s just scary. I feel
like people don’t realize how dangerous driving can be until something happens
to them. Like if I see it happen to someone else yeah. Maybe you’re like, okay,
she’ll be like pay attention a little more, but. Until it happens to you. I
feel like people don’t change their driving behaviors.

DAVID: I completely agree with you. I really
do, because, , you’re constantly seeing people doing things that they really
shouldn’t be doing. And eventually their lock is going to run out and they’re
going to wind up, having a serious accident.

TARANJIT: Have you ever experienced road rage?
Whether it was you yourself having it or someone else around you having it.

DAVID: I think everybody’s probably experienced
some mild amount of road rage. , but, , I would say that I have seen people do
some crazy stuff on the roads because, , they felt slided or somebody cut them
off or whatever it was. Like if there was a cop around, they would have been
pulled over right away.

, I see that on a
somewhat regular basis out on the freeways of California.

BHAVNEET: Oh,

that’s crazy. Like
the fact that.

Normal.

DAVID: Yeah, , it’s unfortunate because,
sometimes it gets so severe and we see those things we see reports of that in
the news. Where, somebody, pulls out a gun or, , is shooting at people or,
using their car as a battering Ram to smash into them, which is crazy.

TARANJIT: Yeah, that’s crazy to think how driving
can affect people in that way. It’s like everyone’s going through something and
you should just share the road in bed and just get to your destination and not
really care so much. It was too like, oh, if one person cut you off it’s okay.
Just let them go.

DAVID: Yeah. I find myself when I’m, when I’m
driving around on the east coast, down in Delaware the Eastern shore of
Maryland Pennsylvania up on long island or a new new England. I don’t know what
it is, but it’s a much more relaxed driving for me than it is out here in Los
Angeles, on the freeways here in California.

 It seems much more stressful here than when.
Back there. and I still haven’t figured out why. , maybe it’s because I’m on
vacation or I’m out of California and it could be a combination of all those
things

TARANJIT: I feel like being on vacation is part of
the, you don’t, you’re more relaxed, so you don’t really care as much as what
other drivers do. If you’re say commuting to work, then you’re like, okay, like
you want to get somewhere and then they’re trying to get somewhere. I feel like
you get a little more upset.

DAVID: I agree. I think you’re right.

BHAVNEET: I think it’s, also a matter of
perspective. So like for us, I feel like east coast drivers are pretty crazy,
but then again, I have not driven on California highway, so maybe that’s just
way worse.

DAVID: I think it is. And I learned how to
drive in New York and, , people talk about New York drivers. And that to me,
New York drivers in my mind know what they’re doing. Most of the time it seems,
everybody’s wanting to just keep the, flow of traffic going, I used to joke
with, with people.

Out here in
California, I used to say, why, why do people slow down when there’s a cop on
the side of the road? Who’s already pulled somebody over. In New York, when the
troopers pulled somebody over on the side of the road, that’s licensed for you
to speed up and , keep moving, because they’re busy.

They’re not going
to come after you.

TARANJIT: I’ve actually seen police officers pull
multiple people over. , but I mean, I guess if they’re in the middle of giving
someone a ticket, they’re probably not paying attention to the other drivers.

DAVID: Yeah, I’ve seen multiple cars pulled
over, but there’s usually multiple troopers, and they’re pointing and pulling
people over to the side. But when there’s just one highway patrol or state
trooper who’s pulled somebody.

Oh, he’s busy with
that person. He’s not being a denture to everyone else out on the road. So just
take off and do your thing,

TARANJIT: Some people want to slow down. Look at
what’s happening.

DAVID: Yeah, there’s a lot of rubber necking
that.

goes on. That’s
for sure.

TARANJIT: switching gears a little bit to the
future of cars, what are your thoughts on self-driving cars? Is that something
that you want to get into? Is this something that you’re interested in?

DAVID: You know, I, I, I’m always interested
in?

technology and,
those types of things where they’re going to improve the driving experience,
but, , they’re talking about, completely self-driving cars. Get into like a
little pod and tell the computer, take me to, 1, 2, 3 main street, and then you
could just sit there and chat with your loved ones or your friends and, and,
this little pod just zips along.

And get you to
your location. , I’m not opposed to it. I think it would be fun or, , it
certainly would be, , fine by me for certain things, but it’s never going to
replace the driving experience. And that’s the thing that I really love is is
the driving experience itself. So, , to take an Uber or Lyft or some type of, ,
a car service that uses the.

Sort of
self-driving technology. That would be fine. , if I’m going to the airport or
I’m going , to a restaurant at night and I don’t want to drive myself cause I’m
going to have a few drinks or something. , I think it’s, it’s fabulous. It’s
going to make life, wonderfully easy for people.

It’s going to
change up the whole experience of whether you actually own a car or not, , in
the future. But for me, I just love the driving experience and even like
driving classic cars. , , , it’s fun to be able to go out on the road in a
classic car on a Sunday morning. I don’t think that experience is going to
change, , for those people that enjoy doing that.

I think what might
change is, , and there’s a cottage industry right now, , of, , companies that
are taking classic cars and, , replacing the, , internal combustion engine, ,
converting them to, EVs electric vehicles. , so you can drive a classic car, ,
but, it’s an electric vehicle.

 That’s been retrofitted and I think that’s
neat.

BHAVNEET: Yeah, I agree.

self-driving cars
will not be able to replace that feeling of just being able to drive yourself.
Of course, like son you’re like coming home from work you’re exhausted. Or
like, like you said, you went to a restaurant occasionally for certain things.
It’s like, yeah.

Saying through
traffic, the car can take me, but if you want to just go for a drive. You want
to be able to actually

do the driving?

DAVID: Absolutely. And I think you brought up a
good point. I think that they’re going to be fine for people that are going to
and from the office, , because, I know when I was commuting to, and from the
office, I generally spent anywhere from an hour and a half to two hours a day
on the roads.

 , and that’s, to me, somewhat wasted time, ,
if you had a self-driving vehicle that you could sit in and you could read, you
could make phone calls, you could do other things while the vehicles taking you
, , to your destination.

BHAVNEET: Yeah, we can completely relate to that.
I started working from home, but she turned to you still does. We both had like
one and a half hour drives, like to work and one and a half back. So it was
like three hours on their commutes. Yeah. So for that self-driving cars would
be nice. Otherwise, you know, I

would

want to drink
this.

DAVID: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. There’s nothing
like it.

BHAVNEET: Bonus

question time. Are
you ready?

DAVID: Yes, I am ready?

for the bonus
question.

BHAVNEET: If you can make one, a new driving law,
what would it be?

DAVID: I would say, no one could be on the
roads within a one mile radius when I’m driving.

TARANJIT: a little devil.

DAVID: Yes. that would be my, if I put my
burger king crown on, and I could, , waive my Septor and say, no one could be
on the roads within a mile of me driving.

BHAVNEET: It kinda reminds me of , like stay six
feet away, social distance. I don’t know if you’ve seen, like there’s people
that are like poles taped to them. I think that’s what I’m kind of imagining,
like you have this like bubble of like polls, right? Like one

mile.

DAVID: they go that would be it because then it
would be such a, it would be a 100% beautiful driving experience .

TARANJIT: Yeah, I can just imagine, , if there’s
like a magnetic force or something and you just kind of like pushes the cars a
little further to stay within that.

DAVID: Yeah,

TARANJIT: I don’t think others would like it, but
you got the one mile.

DAVID: The other thing that that would be
wonderful is to have your own lane, , , it would be like the carpool lane
except only for you to you. be

fun.

BHAVNEET: very expensive.

DAVID: No, I don’t think so because it’s not
I’m I’m not saying anyone else could have that. I’m just saying it would be for
me,

TARANJIT: Just for you. It was special know,

DAVID: yeah.

TARANJIT: and then he could just like tolls, I
guess, on if someone else wants to take it.

DAVID: that’s the one thing out here in
California. I don’t miss. Is tolls. When you’re on the east coast, you have to
contend with a lot more in the way of tolls. , but out here in California, ,
you’ve got the freeway system and it’s free. , I mean, there’s a couple of toll
roads in a few areas, , but those are private roads that were built.

, at bypass, ,
some traffic areas, but, , one of the things I, I really like, , now with the
tolls is that they’ve gone to the easy pass, and , you just fly through .

BHAVNEET: Yeah. The one thing I do like about
Maryland in terms of tolls is you can always find a way around the tolls.

You don’t have to

take.

DAVID: always a workaround.

TARANJIT: Well, we are coming close to the end of
the episode. Do you have any final thoughts or any tips that you would like to
give other drivers?

DAVID: Again, I really emphasize the fact that
please use your blinker, your directional, , your signal, which allows you to
let the other drivers?

on the road, know
what you’re you’re about to do or what you want to do. , when I see somebody
put on their directional, I slow down, I give them some space, , that kind of a
thing.

Honestly, if I’m
driving along and somebody trying to edge into my lane, if they’re not using
their directional, I don’t know what they’re trying to do. I mean, that’s what
the directionals are for. If you put on your directional, your blinker,
whatever you want to call it, you’re letting those drivers around, you know,,
what you’re going to be doing.

It’s just road
courtesy.

BHAVNEET: Yeah, exactly. Now, if only people would
actually do that and

understand

DAVID: know,

BHAVNEET: is.

DAVID: well, at least the three of us can try
and get the word out on your podcast. , I mean, honestly,

BHAVNEET: Well, thank you so much for coming on
today. Before we let you go. Where can our listeners find you if they want to

connect?

DAVID: Well, I’m on all the social media
platforms and they can also go to my website, which is David bossert.com. D a V
I D B O S S E R t.com. You can see some of the books I’ve written and articles
on animation and Disney. All kinds of fun stuff and there’s links to all my
social media sites.

So can find me on
Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn.

BHAVNEET: Awesome. Well, thank you again so much
for coming on. It was a really fun talking to you about the craziness

that is driving.

DAVID: That’s right. And it was a pleasure to
be on your show. And I really appreciate it. And it was very nice to meet you
both. Thank you.

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BHAVNEET: We hope you enjoy listening to David’s
stories. As much as we enjoy chatting with him about his crazy driving
experiences. Come chat with us on Instagram at drive with us podcast and share
whether you can relate to David’s. And be sure to stay tuned until the end of
the episode, to hear a sneak peek of next week’s episode with trevor, from
California,

TARANJIT: he shared with us about the time a road
rage incident continued into the grocery store and driving an ambulance to
deliver strawberries.

BHAVNEET: If you enjoyed this podcast, you can
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Podchaser. It truly does help us get discovered.

TARANJIT: Thank you so much for choosing to drive
with us and we’ll see you all next time.

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 TREVOR: this, person he pulls over to the side of the road.

So I’m immediately concerned didn’t think much of it went to the grocery store.

 We’re walking around the grocery store and some dude comes rolling around the corner and it’s the guy, and he says to me, did you just cut somebody off?