S4E14: Bill Cushing – Driving 30 mph from Virginia to New York (Transcript)

(sneak peek)

BILL: We’re leaving, Virginia and it was just
fine for the first 40 minutes or so. And then all of a sudden, my car just
slowed down.

And I, I called my
friend. I said, look, I’m having a problem with the over. And we said, look,
let’s just go to the next exit. We’re going to find plenty of mechanics here.
Can’t find a mechanic, so we finally went, alright, look, we gotta be back in
New York to go to work tomorrow morning.

Even if it means I
got. No slow. We’ll just do that. We went from Mechanicsburg to New York, never
went over 30 miles an hour the whole time. 

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BHAVNEET: Welcome back to another episode of drive
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TARANJIT: again? Thank you so much for all your
support and without further ado, let’s meet today’s driver. Bill Cushing.

 Bill is now a semi retired English instructor
who spent a number of years before returning to college as a shipyard worker,
bartender and cabbie among other gigs he’s been published in numerous journals,
magazines and newspapers. Bill’s third book of poetry was released last July
and his current writing project is a memoir of his younger days.

Beginning was
serving in the Navy and will close out prior to the eventual return to college
at the age of 37, originally from New York City.. Bill now resides in Glendale,
California with his wife and their son. Here’s Bill.

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BHAVNEET: Welcome bill to drive with us podcast.
Thank you so much for joining us

BILL: Oh, my pleasure completely. My pleasure.
Love this kind of thing.

BHAVNEET: We’re excited to talk to you about your
crazy driving experiences. But before we dive into that, let’s give our
listeners a better sense of your driving background. So what are some of the
places that you’ve driven and where are you?

BILL: I grew up in New York, in the city.
That’s where I learned to drive and drove. And then, oh God. , I’ve driven in
several states. , cause I went to Missouri for a while. I’ve lived in
Baltimore. , I spent years in Virginia was in Florida. , I was even in Puerto
Rico, and now I’m in California

TARANJIT: how would you describe your relationship
with driving? Is it something you enjoy? Is it something you don’t like as
much? And do you prefer being the driver or

passenger?

BILL: That’s funny because, , I’m not a big
fan of driving, which puts me at a disadvantage in California because everybody
loves their cars apparently. , but, , To me, it’s a utilitarian process. I’m
trying to get from one place to another and that’s all I really want to do now.

, as far as I have
no problem with, , the, in the passenger, be quite honest, I just fall right
asleep. If I’m in the passenger seat, I want to zone out for however long we’re
on the road.

BHAVNEET: Do you think that learning to drive in
New York is what influenced that feeling of not loving driving as

BILL: Yeah, probably. Yeah. Yeah. New York
city is. And of course now I’m in a way, which is well known for its good
driving practices. In fact,, my sister was telling me about this because our
father was a very angry driver to say in the way.

, and one time she
was talking to me how her youngest son well younger son, , This is when he was
probably, I dunno, eight, nine years old. And I guess he had a play date with a
friend of his and when the woman brought him back home, she asked, my sister said,
is your husband, an angry driver.

And she says, no,
no, Patrick’s right. This is her husband. He’s fine. He says, well, the whole
way over here, , Ryan, was in the back seat, yelling at all the cars, come on,
pick a lane and it’s only one shade of green

and she went, oh
my God, that’s me. And I thought it was a, well, we grew up with our father
driving all the time. So that that’s him. , yeah. So I, I’m not the most
patient driver of the world, because like I say to me, it’s, I just want to get
from one place to the next, .

BHAVNEET: And that must be very hard in
California.

BILL: Yeah. Although here, again, tying into
the Puerto Rican thing. One of the things I tell people here, when people start
complaining about driving and say, well, it’s bad, but it’s not as bad as
Puerto Rico believing, , in fact, it’s funny. I even arrange my schedule as
best I can so that I’m driving against the traffic.

So when I go to
work, most of the traffic is going the other way and when I’m coming home, the
same thing. even in New York, I did that.

BHAVNEET: That’s really interesting. Wow. I’ve
done that once, going to a job. And I was going against traffic, not
intentionally, but lucky for me, I was going against traffic and I was like,
wow, this is the best thing to see all the traffic going the opposite
direction.

BILL: It’s so true. When I get in those
situations where I’m stuck in traffic, I just think to myself over and over
again, I can’t believe people do this every day as a routine. I don’t
understand what would induce anybody to put up with this,

BHAVNEET: yeah. And th this is a great segue into
your crazy driving experiences. What would you say is one of your top three

BILL: Well, the first one. . I grew up in New
York and anybody who’s grown up in an area like that in the Northeast or, or
the north where there’s a lot of snow, of course, driving and smell becomes a
big part of your drivers, that experience.

And the one thing
the instructor always hammers into you. When you start the skid or you start
the slide, turn into the skid and pump the brakes. I’m like, yeah. Okay. Okay.
We’re all right. Yeah, we know that. , anyhow about it. Oh, probably a year
after I get my driver’s license, I was dating a girl who was in Pennsylvania.

and I went to
visit her and it was in the winter time. And so I took my parents’ car and the.
I’m driving at the sun, you know, before I go, let me stop and get some chips.
And so had some stuff to take with me on the trip. So I’m coming down, this one
particular hill where I live and all of a sudden the back end of the car is
catching up with the front end.

It was very icy
and it was so funny because I turned into the skid just fine. So I had the car
straightened out. But my mind, the whole time is saying pump the brakes, pump
the brakes, but my foot is slammed right down to the floor. Just about you
idiot pump the brakes. I supposed to be doing this. And I just sort of watched
myself slide into another car and hit this other.

, after it
happened, it was funny. Cause I just wrote the PR. I said, look, I’m going to
see my girlfriend. I’m not going to interrupt this weekend. So I wrote a note,
stuck it on the person’s a windshield. I said, , call me Monday morning or
Sunday night when I get back. And luckily. , this was back in the day when
those cars are made out of steel and, you know, a ball-peen hammer could pretty
much fix any problem.

You had cosmetic
waste, but yeah, my first major accident was just sliding right into the car.
And like I say, it was just so funny, the separation between my mind and body
on that one.

TARANJIT: Yeah. I feel like when you’re taught to
drive, especially like to drive in like snow or different types of weather. You
learn one thing, but , it doesn’t go through your mind as quickly and easily
when you’re in the situation the first time,

BILL: Well, not until you go through the
experience. Let me tell you from then on I religiously pumped the brakes.
That’s never been. And I remember the next time I got caught in that scenario
and I’d probably, it does work, . but it was just funny because it’s one of
those scenarios where.

You don’t have to
talk about time flow. Now I’m watching myself slide into this other car and
just thinking what is wrong with you? You can’t get your foot to do the right
thing

BHAVNEET: it’s definitely a whole different
experience. Like, you know, you see in the movies. Time slows, but then you’re
like, that can’t be true, but then you’re there and you’re like, it’s really,
you’re just like watching a slow Mo.

BILL: Yeah was, Then I went to, , I started
school at the university of Missouri and the, this is probably the next big
story is learning to drive a stick, which I had never driven before. And, ,
Missouri, I don’t know if you’ve ever been to the Midwest, but a lot of open
spaces.

And I was hanging
around with this friend of mine and we were talking and I don’t know how we got
into the conversation, but he asked me, he said, have you ever driven a stick
before? I said, no, he says, ah, come on. It’s time to learn. So we go out
there and he walks me through it and I think he had a Camaro or something
really nice car.

And he takes us
out. to this country road out there. That was a very foggy night, but he said
that, but there was nothing for miles on this road. We’re we’re good. , I’m
driving and I, got a Rocky start obviously the first time out, but I finally, I
guess I’m in third gear, I’m probably doing about 35, 40 miles an hour.

All of a sudden
the road tees. I’m looking at a forest in front of me. Yeah, I just, I did not
know what to do. I just automatically hit the brakes. Luckily I hit the clutch.
Do I just slam both feet down and skidded around or hall just before the road
ended. And I looked over at him and he goes, oh, I forgot about that.

TARANJIT: How do you forget about that?

BILL: Yeah, I know. I know.

. I’ve since then,
obviously I drove. sticks quite a while. Of course. You don’t find them
anymore. Actually kind of reminds me now, this is one where I was a passenger.
, and,

I was in the Navy.
We were stationed out of Norfolk. And one of the guys I was on the ship with
has me go with him. To buy a car. It was a little, , Sunbeam. Alpine’s kind of
like an mg. Little boxy, sporty know nice little two seater, the financial.

What we’re driving
back to the base and he pulls up in a light and we’re sitting side by side with
like a Ferrari or Lamborghini. I don’t even remember what the guy was driving,
but a really expensive Italian sports car. my friend starts gutting the engine
and I’m like, you’re kidding. Right? I mean, this guy’s going to eat you alive.

 It was so funny because I was on the inside of
the driver and the sports car looks over at me and I’m just kind of like, what
can I tell you? I asked him, I don’t know, it makes no sense to me, but the
light changes the green and my friend just jumps on it. And of course the guy
Ferrari takes off as well.

 We’re keeping up with them and he’s in first
year and then he throws it into second and we’re still side by side with a guy
in the other car. He gets into third and we’re still right with him. And then
justice is about to go into fourth gear. The other guy goes into second and
just took off.

He left us bit to
us.

BHAVNEET: And he was toying with you, like yeah.
Yeah.

BILL: Oh, it was, I don’t believe in what that
I would have to,

when I was in
Puerto Rico. It’s such a weird, I think the only thing I can equate it with is
possibly Rome or Egypt as far as the driving people there. , and, and it was so
weird cause I got down there and , at the time I gave up driving.

I just said, this
is making me nuts. I’m going to kill somebody if I keep driving. So I was only
two miles away from work so I could walk. , and I remember one day my neighbor
takes off the same time I took off. And just as I’m getting them, where I
worked is like I says, two miles away.

He was just
passing by. I actually beat you to work walking But I walked in and the
secretary of the place, she, she noticed me walking in the front door. She just
built that new park out back. I said, no, I walked. She goes, oh, you don’t
drive. I said, no. you know, I try, I just don’t drive here.

And she said,
Don’t you know how to drive here? I said, well, yes, I know how you drive here.
You close your eyes, twist the wheel and lay on the horn. And that’s it. I just
choose not to, I want to keep my sanity. , but I just, I could not drive there.
It just absolutely drove me nuts. And so, yeah, whenever I hear people in LA
talk about that, I said, yeah, I admit the traffic here is bad,

 but I would see things. I mean, I watched a
guy drive for probably three quarters of a mile backwards.

And it wasn’t like
he was on the other side of the street, riding backwards with traffic. He was literally,
and this was a main drag. You guys must be convinced of your own mortality or
something. It makes no sense to me. , I watched another guy one time. This is
when I was actually driving at one point and the guy is stopped on the side of
a highway, a main highway.

Now he’s only
about, he couldn’t have been more than 18, 20 feet from an exit, so he could
have easily. I’ve just gotten back on he stopped the car in the highway. He’s
got his door wide open. His bud is sticking out nearly in the road and he’s
shuffling through papers. I’m like, all you need is one sloppy driver.

You’re going to
lose everything. , it was really weird to me.

BHAVNEET: Well,

TARANJIT: this is actually all these stories are a
great segue into our next question, which you kind of touched on this a little
bit, but we’re curious to know. If you’ve noticed any specific types of drivers
in different areas.

BILL: That’s funny because, , one of the
things, I guess, my best experiences between New York city drivers. LA drivers,
which, where I’ve got the most experience. , and the thing that drives me nuts
up here, well, for one thing, I’ve noticed that, , turn signals are supposed to
be a magic wand, I guess, or something.

I mean, I’ve
noticed. Cutting into a lane and putting on the blinker just as they’re making
a move. And I’m like, no, the idea is to put it on before you make the move. So
I know what you’re getting to. It’s not a magic wand that clears all traffic
out. , and I think the other thing that it’s funny because I know new Yorkers.

Yes, we are
aggressive. We w we can be belligerent and all that stuff. , the traffic is
backed up, but people still move. I mean, you’ll be bumper to bumper, but going
40 miles an hour here, it’s like, you know, eight, then you’re up to maybe 1520,
then you’re back down to eight.

So I’ve reached a
conclusion as to why that happens, at least out here. I don’t know if it’s true
in other areas, but whenever traffic really backs up, I keep saying to myself,
it’s probably eight people at the head of the line that are causing all this
problem. In other words,

it’s not the whole
bunch. , it’s some group that just for whatever reason, I, you know,
rubbernecking whatever, which of course that always drives me nuts. When I see
that I was just like, come on, you’ve never seen an ambulance before. You’ve
never seen a fire truck before in your life. And it’s like, let’s go, let’s
just get home.

That’s what we’re
trying to do. The thing that drives me nuts at your muddiest down here though,
is there’s this predilection of people, not to want anybody to be in front of
them, even if it makes sense. Like, I’ll be trying to move from one lane to the
other. And this guy was trying to get in my lane.

Well, since I’m
exiting, it makes more sense for me to slow down and for him to speed up and
then we’ll just switch wise and they’ll just refuse to do it. And I was like,
come on.

And it would make
sense for one of us to get in front of the other and just do it this way. Nope.
Nobody can be in front of me. , so I think that’s what drives me nuts here. ,
New York , unless you’re on the parkways or, or in of course, Manhattan will
drive you crazy. , anyway, I would just take the train in the subway, and
problem is out here. It’s not reliable. Let’s, you know, that they do have a
rail system, but it’s the schedule is not. No in New York. I don’t know if
you’ve ever been there, but you know, every five minutes there’s a subway
coming

, you miss one.
Yeah. You wait 10 minutes. Another won’t be alone. , but yeah, try and drive so
that everybody can get by.

BHAVNEET: Yeah.

I D I completely
agree with you. I hate when people will either like change lanes and then like,
The signal after they’ve already done it. sometimes using the, or at least I’ve
noticed in Maryland, it’s like, you have to be assertive because if you put on
the signal and they kind of like, wait for someone to let you over, no, one’s
going to actually let it over.

BILL: Well, I’ve done that a few times where
it’s just, okay. I’m tired of being a nice guy. I’m just, you know, everybody
else is doing it. Hey, I’ll join it. Of course I gotta be more careful on that
now because we just bought a new car, we have the, wheelchair van, the ramp van
And, my wife tends to go more under LA downtown. So she likes to take the car
because it’s not as big and as clumsy, it’s easier to park and I’ll, take the
van to work.

BHAVNEET: Well, speaking of the crazy drivers that
you’ve experienced on the road, have you ever experienced road rage, whether as
you, yourself or someone

BILL: Oh, God. Oh, Jesus. Yeah,

I grew up in time
data drive by my dad and he was really, it’s funny. Cause my wife now w w what
does that prove us? Well, it actually. Do anything outside of the car, but it
makes the inside of the car work alone at least it diffuses me a little bit by
yelling and screaming.

Again, it goes
back to, I don’t really want to be there. I have to be there. So as long as I’m
there, I try and relax as much as I can, but it’s sometimes it’s very
difficult.

Like we go to the
Dodgers games all the time and we know the traffic’s going to be lousy and
getting right. Okay. Instead of leaving those, it really only 15, 20 minutes
from the stadium, but we’ll leave an hour early because we know what’s going to
be horrible.

So let’s just,
avoid the tension by just, let’s leave the games at five, we’ll leave at four,

TARANJIT: no, that’s actually a good way to think
of it, of if you do have the, I guess if you are more likely to get road rage
or irritating with other drivers to just give yourself more time

so going a little
into your. Driving experiences. How would you describe your very first time
driving and

who was it with?

BILL: Probably the first time was when I have
the learner’s permit. And we were practicing, my mom took me out, let me
practice in their car. And I always remember this one was we’re driving along.
And I veer off to get on the, , long island expressway.

And my mom had.
You’re getting on the express as I got to learn. So I think her hands probably
tightened on the seat of the cushion.

BHAVNEET: So.

how would you
describe your driving test experience? Were you able to pass it on the.

BILL: Oh, yeah. I had no problem with it.
Actually, when I got out here, I had to do it all over again. The last day I
let my license lapse when I was in Puerto Rico. So when I moved out here, I had
to basically start all over again, but I was like, okay, fine. The driving
instructor we had was, seemed to be pretty good.

I still remember a
lot of, how he said you do things , although I have to admit that now that I’m
older, I avoid certain things I would have done with no problem. Like I hate
parallel parking the van,

I would rather
just drive around the block and find someplace where I can just pull up.

 A lot of that is because of the construction
of the van itself. It’s got a very low signage cause of , the ramp assemble it.

BHAVNEET: Yeah. Parallel parking is one of those
things where like, people either love it or they absolutely hate it.

BILL: with the car, I’ve got no problem, but
the van is so wide and it’s so hard for me to gauge. It’s just, the van is so
low. I’m always scared. It’s not worth the hassle,

TARANJIT: I know on the form that we had you fill
out before you came on the show, you mentioned about a instance with your car,
that the mechanics couldn’t figure

out the

BILL: Oh, that’s right. Yeah. I forgot. I’ve
mentioned that What happened was I went from Virginia back to New York. And
when I found the place I had a guy I met at the new job where I was, he had a
truck, he said, yeah, I’ll go down with you and move your stuff up.

I left all my
stuff kind of Virginia. So about a month later, I go down there and, we’re
leaving, we leave Virginia and it was just fine for the first 40 minutes or so.
And then all of a sudden, my car just slowed down.

And so at that
time, this is when you had citizens band radios to CVS. And I, I called my
friend. I said, look, I’m having a problem with the over. And we looked it
over. He looked it over. He knew cars pretty much. I don’t know what doing
with. We said, look, let’s just go to the next exit. And as fate would have it,
it was almost perfect.

the exit was to
Mechanicsville. which I don’t know if you know that area of Virginia, but it’s
got a big race track there. Uh, great. We’re going to find plenty of mechanics
here. Can’t find a mechanic, the mechanics. Where else are you going to find
one? So we did find one guy who was working on his car.

. That guy must
have spent him. And two of his friends must have spent five hours on the car
trying to figure it out. I could not figure it out at all. So we finally went,
alright, look, I gotta get, we gotta be back in New York to go to work tomorrow
morning.

Even if it means I
got. No slow. We’ll just do that. And we went from Mechanicsburg to New York,
never went over 30 miles an hour the whole time. And it is draining. I mean,
just it’s bad enough driving long distances, but if you’re doing 30, 35, the
whole way, it’s just like, oh, every few hours we had to stop and coffee, just
stretch and then, okay, let’s go back on, but it just wears you out.

Well, it turns out
when, when I got back up there, I dropped it off my guy’s place and gave it to
him. I said, look, take whatever time you need. Turns out something had gotten
caught up in the exhaust system, which nobody thinks of that. he said, well, what
was happening was, was backing everything else up and it wasn’t letting you get
any accelerator.

And it, and he
told me, he said, man, it took me a day and a half to figure it out. So yeah,
that was a really, oh Lord, what a terrible trip that was. what should have
been a six hour drive turned into almost 12 or 13 hours.

BHAVNEET: That’s what’s already like, such a long
trip. You had to double the time because you’re practically like pedaling.

BILL: I know. Yeah, you might’ve well,

TARANJIT: now that we’ve heard a little bit about
your past driving experience and your current driving experiences, let’s talk a
little bit about the future of driving. What are your thoughts on self-driving
cars and what’d

you get.

BILL: I not, for awhile. I think driving is
every bit as much intuitive as it is mechanical. For example, we just bought a
new Honda accord and it’s got the, you know, the lane stuff. Like half the
time, it’s like, no, I know that I, you know, I’m aware of that.

You don’t have to
tell me. , if you can get the car to self-drive with absolute safety and I
don’t have to worry about anything fine. Even now there’s like, well, you can
have the self-driving, but you have to be aware of, well, then what’s the
point. If I gotta be aware of miles, we’ll be driving.

Like I said, if
I’m not driving, I’m going to be sleep. So, I’m not against them per se, but
you wouldn’t get me in one right away

BHAVNEET: yeah, they are still relatively new and
they’re still , not fully self-driving at this point. I definitely would want
to see more of how reliable they are once they’ve been on

the road.

BILL: but it’s like any technology whenever
something new comes out, I would say, I can give it four or five years. Let
them work the bugs out, let the price come down. It will, , I don’t need to
have the fanciest thing of a world.

But, any form of
technology like that, it’s gonna go through a shaking out period.

BHAVNEET: Yeah, exactly. Bonus question time. Are
you ready?

BILL: Sure.

BHAVNEET: If you could make one, a new driving
law, what would it be?

It could be as
realistic or crazy as you want it

BILL: Well, I’ve always said, I think they
need to have an idiots lane on the highway. What would you want to stop and
look, get over here and let the rest of us go home? I never understand that,
there’s nothing I can do to help the people involved in the accident or
whatever the event is.

I’ve seen it all.
I’ve seen fire trucks, I’ve seen ambulances, I’ve seen police cars. Not a
novelty. So why are we stopping to look other than this weird fascination of,
well, better him than me, I guess,

cause yeah,
whatever I get in that scenario, that’s, that’s what I’m yelling Mosley. Come
on. What could you possibly contribute to the situation? And what you could
contribute is moving.

TARANJIT: Exactly.

Now only if will
they follow that? If this was a lane, would people actually move over? Would
they just

stay in

that lane?

BILL: but it would be nice if you could do
that. It’s funny because when people ask you, if you could have one superpower,
what would it be? I would say telekinesis. Cause I want, I can just move
everybody out of the way.

I’ll float them up
in the air as I get by. I’ll put them back down, , let me just get going here.

TARANJIT: Well, we’re coming close to an end of
the podcast, but we wanted to ask you if you have any final thoughts or any
tips that you would give

other drivers.

BILL: This may not be the best advice, but
it’s the one I always grew up with from my father. And he said, when you’re
dry, he said to me, dry defensive driving. It’s trying to think of the most
stupid thing the person beside or in front of you can do, and then expect
something even worse.

That’s the way you
drive. Just whatever you expect can be done. It’s going to be worse probably at
some point.

TARANJIT: Yeah, well, before we let you go, we
want to give you a chance to plug anything. Where can listeners find you?

BILL: I’ve got several books of poetry out,
I’m working on some other things. Actually, if people just go on to Google and
put bill crushing poet , this is another bill of cushion.

I know who writes
it’s a very popular name. If anybody would like, I would welcome if you’d like
to give my email, if anybody wants to check. What my books are and what they’re
like, I’m, I’m happy to Revit either information links, you have my email feel
free to post it

BHAVNEET: yep.

We won’t put it in
the show notes, but thank you. So. Coming on today. It was really fun talking
to you and hearing about the craziness of driving in, especially like Puerto
Rica and Peru. I didn’t realize how crazy they were,

TARANJIT: thank you so much for coming on today.

BILL: Thanks for inviting me on. I, I enjoyed
it. always fun. Reminiscing about my youth.

 (transition music)

TARANJIT: Bill had some really interesting
experiences, both throughout the U S and in south America. The story that
actually really stuck with me was his car problem that he had in Virginia and
no mechanic had figured out what was wrong. And he had to drive the entire way
back to New York, going 30 miles per hour.

Could you imagine
driving that slow for that long,

BHAVNEET: especially for, yeah. That long of a
distance, imagine being on the highway. you know, We’ve driven some of those
highways and you just. And the coordinators did it, did it, did it,

TARANJIT: especially if he was taking like 95, the
speeds can 65 70. And you’re over here doing 30.

BHAVNEET: That is asking for an accident like that
is crazy.

And nobody could
figure out what was wrong. no one.

TARANJIT: So we actually did do a, I guess it was
about 13 hour road trip, which is how long it took them to get to new.

BHAVNEET: Except for, we were going, uh, speed
limits

TARANJIT: like that. That’s what I’m saying. I
felt like that 13 hour drive was exhausting and we are going 70 miles per hour.

For most of it.
Imagine having to do that trip in 30 miles per hour.

BHAVNEET: I wouldn’t,

I would have to
take so many more breaks cause the points where the speed dropped down back
down to like 50 or 55 or just like, uh, I want to go back to 70.

TARANJIT: Yeah, that I just hope that never
happens to anyone.

BHAVNEET: Yeah. Well that was bill. We hope you
enjoyed hearing his driving stories and be sure to stay tuned until the end of
this episode, to hear a sneak peek of next week’s episode with Riana Avis Our
second UK driver two in one season.

TARANJIT: No. Right. And she shares about the time
her car had a mind of its own and honked whenever I wanted. And all the quirks
that came with driving her Volkswagen bug.

BHAVNEET: Thank you for tuning in this week. And
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TARANJIT: Thanks for choosing to drive with us and
we’ll see you next week for our last episode of the season. 

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RIANA: I had a friend, for some reason, her car became impounded.

and, she had to go and fetch Her children, from nursery school and she asked if she could borrow one of our cars. I said, you can borrow my beetle, but here’s the rules. The petrol gauge doesn’t work.

So you’d have no idea how much petrol you have, the, the brakes itself. You have to pump them, So you can’t brake hard cause there’s not going to be any breaks. . It was definitely not a safe car to drive.

And I led my friend drive it.