BHAVNEET: Welcome back to Drive With Us! I’m Bhavneet
TARANJIT: And I’m Taranjit.
BHAVNEET: And this is an episode.
TARANJIT: What else would it be?
BHAVNEET: Uh, well… you didn’t say anything so I tried to fill the silence.
TARANJIT: So, recently in the news. I don’t know if it’s TV news, or, you know, phone news that I read.
BHAVNEET: I’m pretty sure regardless of where you find it, it’s still news. It’s phone news, not TV news. Like they divide it up.
TARANJIT: Yes.
BHAVNEET: So if you’re on the phone, you will only see this news. If you’re on the TV, watching the TV not if you’re actually on it because then you’re telling the news, but if you are watching TV then you only get this type of news.
TARANJIT: But I feel like TV news is more dramatic.
BHAVNEET: What about computer news? Are they separate or are they the same as phones? Because technically..
TARANJIT: Phone. Phone-computer news. On my phone-computer news, I saw a lot of people suing left and right.
BHAVNEET: Well, I mean you gotta make the money somehow, right?
TARANJIT: Yeah, I guess so.
BHAVNEET: Except you probably are going to give a lot of that… what?… You touched your nose and went, pointed at me. So I’m like… ditto?
TARANJIT: I’m like, I’ll shut up, you talk.
BHAVNEET: Was it like, oh ditto. Or oh, there’s someone behind you, or… you.
TARANJIT: I kind of started talking at the same time so I was like, oh I’ll shut up.
BHAVNEET: I don’t remember what I was going to say now. Oh, yes. Lawyers. You’re probably going to end up giving a bunch of that money to lawyers because someone has to get you that money from suing so…
TARANJIT: But what if they had this planned out to be like oh, I’m gonna sue for this much taking into account that a portion is going to that and I’ll get this at the end.
BHAVNEET: But that’s so much of a headache.
TARANJIT: Well, if people are going to do it don’t you think they’re going to think about it?
BHAVNEET: Like all the stuff you have to go through and… ugh, it would be so stressful. I’d be like, yeah sue you! And then when it actually starts be like nevermind, I don’t want to go through this whole court process. Like, no.
TARANJIT: Well, that’s you.
BHAVNEET: Yeah. Like, I, this is more of the forensics side of it, like when we did mock trial in school it was like I cannot handle courtroom shenanigans. But then again that’s as an expert witness not as a person suing. But, how different could it be?
TARANJIT: Probably very different.
BHAVNEET: Would you still get grilled? Like in forensics where you are the expert witness testifying about your results …
TARANJIT: Well, obviously the person that’s on your side is not going to grill you but the opposing lawyer is definitely going to grill you no matter what.
BHAVNEET: I did not like that experience. Like when we did mock trial our teacher had that experience so he was like pretending to be, for each of the students, a different type of defense attorney and I got the quality control grill. Like he asked me all the tiny bits and pieces about every little quality control, quality assurance measures in all the tests and I was like oh my god! And he was like cutting me off, and one thing they told us was like, no. Put your foot down. Like, if you’re going to say something, say it. Don’t take no for an answer. Blah blah blah all that stuff.
TARANJIT: Blah blah blah
BHAVNEET: Yeah. Blah blah blah.
TARANJIT: Good point.
BHAVNEET: Thank you. That’s exactly how he said it. Blah blah blah blah blah. And this guy was very big and intimidating. Like he was so tall and your just sitting there and he’s standing over you asking you all these questions and it’s like… uhhhhh.
TARANJIT: Yeah but like in a court would the prosecute… prosecuting lawyer… prosecutor
BHAVNEET: Prosecutor, that’s the word. You were about to say it.
TARANJIT: Prosecuting lawyer.
BHAVNEET: Prosecutor.
TARANJIT: Okay.
BHAVNEET: That’s it.
TARANJIT: Would they be able to climb up and be all, like, in your face?
BHAVNEET: Why would they climb up?
TARANJIT: No, but if he was overshadowing you, is that possible?
BHAVNEET: Because you’re sitting, they’re standing.
TARANJIT: I know but… you know how like on TV, I don’t know if…
BHAVNEET: Okay. TV cannot be how it actually is.
TARANJIT: I know, but…
BHAVNEET: Can it?
TARANJIT: Our mock courtroom, I felt like I was more up and the person was on the floor lower than me. There was no way for them, even if they came up, there was no way for them to be above me.
BHAVNEET: Oh, I guess so. That would be good because then you’re not, like, looking up all like aaaahhhhh. That was way more intimidating, but I’m glad that was over. He said externally, I looked very, uh, calm. I don’t know how because I’m very expressive.
TARANJIT: Yes.
BHAVNEET: I don’t know how he thought that, like, I thought that my whole face was red because that was a thing that always happened when I’m nervous. I was like… I was like clenching my hands together so hard so I wouldn’t fidget. Ugh. It was so bad. I was sweating so bad but I was wearing a coat so nobody could tell that part. But he said I did really good and I was like, uh, I don’t think so. I think I had a heart attack sitting up there.
TARANJIT: So you’re talking about criminal cases.
BHAVNEET: Yeah.
TARANJIT: This is more like a civil case.
BHAVNEET: So would it be more civilized? I don’t think so.
TARANJIT: That’s what I’m saying, like, you’re not going to have that expert. Well, I mean they could get an expert but like they’re not going to have like a forensics expert on the stand.
BHAVNEET: I know but I was trying to see, like, would it be as intense and as like… that kind of situation. Or… I feel like they would still try to be like, no I’m not going to you my money. You wrong!
TARANJIT: So, my question was, before we went on the criminal side
BHAVNEET: Well, I’m sorry. The background of… the forensic science background is going to come out. Somehow. What was you question? Yes, go ahead.
TARANJIT: Oh, my question was, how many of those people do you think would actually win a case like that if they sued?
BHAVNEET: I don’t think a whole lot would, because they have to, like the people being too, especially if it’s like a big company, corporation. They’re going to have really good attorneys backing them up. Like to protect them from these things. Otherwise, everyone would sue.
TARANJIT: Right. Okay. So here’s the case. One of the cases that I came across, Lufthansa the airline,
BHAVNEET: Yes. What else? The duck.
TARANJIT: I don’t know what other animal
BHAVNEET: Hey look it’s Lufthansa the duck walking around. Very famous duck family. Aflac. No, Lufthansa.
TARANJIT: So basically…
BHAVNEET: It’s a goose right? The bird?
TARANJIT: Aflac?
BHAVNEET: No, no, Lufthansa. They have…there’s a bird. On the side of the… isn’t it a bird on their plane? Like some sort of… thing.
TARANJIT: Lufthansa has a bird?
BHAVNEET: I thought it was a bird on their plane.
TARANJIT: Now I gotta look this up.
BHAVNEET: Why are you looking over at the bed like you saw something.
TARANJIT: I was looking for my phone.
BHAVNEET: Something on your bed that says Lufthansa here it is. I like how you looked around the room
TARANJIT: It was over here. And I was like…
BHAVNEET: Lufthansa.
TARANJIT: It’s over there.
BHAVNEET: Okay. Now what was the case?
TARANJIT: Lufthansa is doing the suing.
BHAVNEET: Oh, not someone suing them.
TARANJIT: They’re suing a passenger.
BHAVNEET: Oh, this is a new one.
TARANJIT: So the article said that Lufthansa was suing the passenger for deliberately missing a flight.
BHAVNEET: Why would they sue someone for missing a flight? Like they just wouldn’t get their money back. Right?
TARANJIT: What do you think happened?
BHAVNEET: What?
TARANJIT: What do you happened that caused them to sue this passenger?
BHAVNEET: That doesn’t like make any sense, like if you miss a flight that’s on you.
TARANJIT: He deliberately
BHAVNEET: How do they know it was deliberate?
TARANJIT: Well, when you hear the story, you can see that it was.
BHAVNEET: was he hiding in the bathroom?
TARANJIT: Oh, at the airport?
BHAVNEET: Yeah. And they had to like, go find him. I found you.
TARANJIT: They would make the announcement, Oh, we gotta go find this passenger.
BHAVNEET: Airports are like 24/7 operations. They can’t be like we’re closing. Oh, you’re the last one left. How? I don’t, I don’t see how someone could deliberately, how they could even know if it was deliberate. Because if you miss a flight, you just don’t get your money back that’s on you. Whatever.
TARANJIT: That’s if you like accidentally miss a flight or something happens right? But this guy purposely
BHAVNEET: Yeah, again how does he purposely miss a flight. What? What does he do?
TARANJIT: Okay, so what happened…
BHAVNEET: Yeah, what happened?
TARANJIT: They didn’t say his name obviously. They said it’s an unnamed male passenger.
BHAVNEET: I’m pretty sure he has a name.
TARANJIT: He’s unnamed now.
BHAVNEET: Oh, he lost his name in the lawsuit. Oh my gosh. That’s a terrible loss. They took his name.
TARANJIT: Yes. That’s his punishment.
BHAVNEET: What are they going to do with it?
TARANJIT: You can no longer be named this cuz you’re unnamed. You have been unnamed.
BHAVNEET: If you want to get on this flight, you cannot have this name.
TARANJIT: Oh, that’d be terrible.
BHAVNEET: That’d be a terrible thing to lose in a lawsuit. Now you’re just unnamed male. So what did he do to get unnamed?
TARANJIT: Alright, so basically, what he did was he booked a flight from point A to point B. So like,
BHAVNEET: Where is point A and where is point B
TARANJIT: Give me places. Just give me two places name.
BHAVNEET: Okay… oh! That didn’t, that didn’t comprehend in my head.
TARANJIT: Okay! Wait.
BHAVNEET: No, I thought you said point A to point B there is two places. Just two places. And then I like paused. And then it comprehended that you said give me two places’ names. Westminster and Baltimore.
TARANJIT: That’s it? They’re only flying from here to there?
BHAVNEET: Why would Lufthansa be flying locally?
TARANJIT: I forget what the location was. But I think it was something like in Washington like Seattle, to Frankfurt or something like that.
BHAVNEET: Sheatle?
TARANJIT: Seattle.
BHAVNEET: Sheatle.
TARANJIT: Sheatle?
BHAVNEET: Isn’t that how Indians say it?
TARANJIT: Oh.
BHAVNEET: I think that’s Washinton.
TARANJIT: What is it?
BHAVNEET: Wa-shington.
TARANJIT: Wa-shington.
BHAVNEET: Wa-shington. Oh, my God, when who came over? We had the biggest laugh like I could not stop because they kept saying Wa-shington. And I’m like, for the longest time, like me and you were sitting there listening to their conversation
TARANJIT: I understood. No, no, I knew what they’re talking about.
BHAVNEET: I know.
TARANJIT: But you’re like is that in Canada?
BHAVNEET: I know. No, no. Like, we were sitting there listening to their conversation. And I’m just like, every time they said, I’m like, wait what? Please repeat.
TARANJIT: Wait, what?
BHAVNEET: But I didn’t want to say that. So that was just like 10 minutes in they kept saying it. And then I like turn to you like what are they saying? Is that a place in Canada? Wa-shington. And you’re like Washington. Oh, Washington. Right. Now the state or the city? Washington.
TARANJIT: Okay, so I think it was Washington, Seattle. Seattle, Washington. Yes. And I think they’re flying to Frankfurt, but I could be wrong. But we’re going to use those two as an example. So his original plan was to go from like, one place to the next, right? From Seattle to Frankfurt, let’s say.
BHAVNEET: Okay.
TARANJIT: But he found a cheaper flight, like before his actual flight went off. So he like, cancelled that one. I don’t know if he cancelled that one.
BHAVNEET: But then that wouldn’t be deliberately missing it.
TARANJIT: I think he canceled the first one. But then he booked another flight that went Seattle to Frankfurt, from Frankfurt to something else. So it connected in Frankfurt to a third location, right? A to B to C.
BHAVNEET: So so far, so good.
TARANJIT: Yes. So what he did was because its original plan was to go to Frankfurt, but it was cheaper to go to get the ticket A to B to C, he got on and
BHAVNEET: He didn’t get on the connecting flight.
TARANJIT: He got, he got off a B and left, or I don’t know if he like left left, or he took another flight to wherever he wants to go. But something like that. Yeah. And he didn’t take that B to C. So the airline was losing money, because they had an empty seat.
BHAVNEET: But then they knew that he had canceled that previous ticket, because he had that one originally. Oh my god, people. Why is it cheaper? Why is it cheaper to go from A to B to C than it is from A to B.
TARANJIT: I was curious about that and another article on the same topic had this explanation on there of why.
BHAVNEET: Okay, so this is a legit thing that happens.
TARANJIT: Yes. So why airlines tend to like certain flights to have a stop or something in the middle could be cheaper than just going directly.
BHAVNEET: No, but like, it’s not like he stopped somewhere else and then made it to Frankfurt. It’s like, it stopped in Frankfurt and then went somewhere else. It doesn’t make any sense.
TARANJIT: So because like, if he was flying from Washington, first of all, that’s a long flight. So maybe it’s like, stop. Layover.
BHAVNEET: Yeah, I know. But like if people are going direct there, why is that more expensive?
TARANJIT: So what I saw was an example where it said, like, say, I think it was using an England spot as an example to like, say you’re going from somewhere to London, and then from London to another place, which was like some name I don’t even know.
BHAVNEET: I don’t know many place, but it was all in England?
TARANJIT: So… I think.
BHAVNEET: Why would you fly?
TARANJIT: What they were saying was that going from A, wherever you are, to London was cheap. I mean, more expensive, direct flight. But if you went through like via London to that third location, which I can’t remember the name of, which is not as popular as London, but it’s still like a place people want to go. So they make it cheaper that way. So you can connect that through there. They don’t want to get rid of that third destination, because they’re still making money off of it. But they’re not making as much as just going straight to London.
BHAVNEET: Why don’t more people just do the connecting, and then just, eh. Because you get sued?
TARANJIT: Yeah.
BHAVNEET: How much is this guy saving that he did that? Because now he’s getting sued, and he’s gonna pay how much?
TARANJIT: I don’t know how much. They didn’t say how much he saved.
BHAVNEET: Unnamed male.
TARANJIT: Yes, unnamed. And I guess, I don’t know if it’s still in court right now, because it was just recently in news so. I don’t know. But Lufthansa basically took them to court. Civil lawsuit.
BHAVNEET: I mean, that’s one seat that they could have got someone else to go on. So I mean, I guess I that makes sense.
TARANJIT: But then they asked for compensation. So I guess this is about how much money they lost. But they basically said that this person violated their terms.
BHAVNEET: I could see that.
TARANJIT: And they want about $2400 in compensation.
BHAVNEET: So he should have just bought the direct flight. Like, if he was really like that, worried about money, he should just took a flight that had a layover somewhere like Washington, Washington to Washington, and then go to Germany.
TARANJIT: Who do you think won?
BHAVNEET: The passenger.
TARANJIT: Of course, it was a passenger.
BHAVNEET: Why?
TARANJIT: But now Lufthansa as appealing.
BHAVNEET: Because I could see how Lufthansa would be upset about that. But then again, I personally, like why are you making it more expensive to go directly versus connecting to a third location?
TARANJIT: Okay, I found the example. Maybe you’ll understand this better.
BHAVNEET: Maybe not. Cuz my brain doesn’t work like that.
TARANJIT: So this article said that a flight, say you’re taking a flight from Istanbul to London, it might cost you $300. And then if you were to take a flight Istanbul to London, but you had to stop. Oh, I’m sorry, if you were to take a flight from Istanbul to Glasgow, via London it might be 250. So it’s cheaper.
BHAVNEET: Yeah, why?
TARANJIT: So the Istanbul to London flight is very popular. So they, you know, direct flight, raise the prices because a lot of people want to go that destination. But the Istanbul to Glasgow is not as popular. So what the airline tends to do is they lower the price so they can fill more seats. And then the article is also like, so why don’t they just stopped flights to Glasgow, right?
BHAVNEET: But people want to go there still and other companies will get in and they’ll get the…
TARANJIT: Yeah, so basically, it was saying, it’s still like a popular place to fly, but not as popular as London. But people still want to go there, like you said, so they’re not gonna get rid of it. Because keeping the flight they make more money as opposed to getting rid of it altogether.
BHAVNEET: Where’s Glasgow?
TARANJIT: I don’t know.
BHAVNEET: That like Norway or something. Sweden?
TARANJIT: UK.
BHAVNEET: It’s in the UK?
TARANJIT: Wait, Glasgow is located on the banks of the river Clyde in West Central Scotland.
BHAVNEET: It’s in Scotland. I was gonna say, people fly within England. I mean, it’s such a tiny country, just drive there. But I mean, if you think think about it, that whole country in that tiny island, so there’s a lot of people. What’s their population? Is it a lot?
TARANJIT: Of the UK?
BHAVNEET: Yeah, no of England. Like, don’t they have a really high population on that tiny little island, so I guess, traffic must be terrible. You think traffic here is bad, like in the city. Imagine how about London? Is anyone from London? Let us know how crazy your traffic is.
TARANJIT: How do you compare to Maryland drivers?
BHAVNEET: How long is your commute? Do you guys even move? For like 20 minutes at a time? Like do you have to like sit in the same spot for like 20 minutes and then move like an inch? That’s what I imagined.
TARANJIT: Or just snail crawl and then stop.
BHAVNEET: Or not even because, again, such a tiny country. They have a really big population don’t they?
TARANJIT: Think so.
BHAVNEET: Like how do they fit that many people in a tiny island that’s like smaller than the size of Texas. But then again, I always forget that Maryland’s pretty tiny too.
TARANJIT: And we have a lot of people.
BHAVNEET: Yeah, it’s like, you don’t ever think that it’s that small. But if you look at the map of the country, it’s like we’re like smaller than most of the states. Were so tiny. Not like Connecticut, Rhode Island. Little dots. But…
TARANJIT: Connecticut’s not that tiny.
BHAVNEET: Yeah it is. Connecticut and Rhode Island are underneath Massachusetts and there’s a little bloop bloop.
TARANJIT: Connecticut’s not, it’s bigger than Maryland.
BHAVNEET: No, it’s not.
TARANJIT: Seriously?
BHAVNEET: There’s no way it’s…no. Incorrect. That’s not possible. I’m pretty sure it’s Connecticut, Rhode Island that are the smallest state.
TARANJIT: Map cuts it off.
BHAVNEET: Why? That’s not a full map.
TARANJIT: Oh, yeah. It is smaller.
BHAVNEET: You don’t know your states.
TARANJIT: I didn’t think it was that small.
BHAVNEET: Yeah. See Rhode Island’s a little tiny bloop and Connecticut’s like eeeh.
TARANJIT: I know Rhode Island was tiny.
BHAVNEET: Must be like a hop skip and your in Massachusetts.
TARANJIT: Go back to the suing case.
BHAVNEET: Yes.
TARANJIT: There’s actually a term for this. For like booking a flight and then not getting on the next flight.
BHAVNEET: There is?
TARANJIT: Do you know what it’s called?
BHAVNEET: No I didn’t know it was a term. Lufthansa, it’s called Lufthansa.
TARANJIT: Lufthansa-ing.
BHAVNEET: Yes. It will be now.
TARANJIT: But apparently Lufthansa is not the first time this happened to so.
BHAVNEET: Well then whatever airline it happened to first it should be that name.
TARANJIT: It’s actually called skip lagging.
BHAVNEET: Haha that makes sense.
TARANJIT: Or also hidden, hidden city ticketing.
BHAVNEET: Who came up with these names?
TARANJIT: There’s a reason.
BHAVNEET: You pointed at me. Like, I came up with that?
TARANJIT: Yes. You skip lagged.
BHAVNEET: What in my not existent in flight history.
TARANJIT: So this term came from a website called skip lag website.
BHAVNEET: Maybe they made the website after.
TARANJIT: This guy named… Oh my God, I’m gonna mess his name up really bad. Akh-tar-er?
BHAVNEET: The way you said that.
TARANJIT: I know. I didn’t know how to say it. It’s like Akhtar with an E R at the end. Akhtar-er?
BHAVNEET: Instead of Canadian, like Akhtar, eh. Akhtar-er. Akhtar-er. Akhtar-er. Oh, I squeaked.
TARANJIT: Last name, Zaman.
BHAVNEET: What?
TARANJIT: Zaman, Zamen.
BHAVNEET: I thought you said ramen. Zombie ramen. Zaman. He ate the ramen and become a zombie. You know what, ramen? That wasn’t ramen we had, we had Maggi.
TARANJIT: Yes.
BHAVNEET: The Indian attempt at ramen, I guess.
TARANJIT: Did Maggi come first or ramen? So is ramen an attempt at Maggi?
BHAVNEET: I don’t know but any of you ever tried Maggie and liked it? Why? It is so bad. We had it when we came back from India I remember that because we’re all super tired and we’re like, oh we have this, let’s just eat it and we’re just like…
TARANJIT: No. We had it with that or we had it when we went to Arizona to try.
BHAVNEET: We had it at home, we brought some… we had some packed with us.
TARANJIT: Oh.
BHAVNEET: And when we got home we’re like we’re so tired Okay, let’s just make this we have some, we bought some back for some reason. And it was the most disgusting-est thing ever.
TARANJIT: Disgusting-est?
BHAVNEET: Yes, that is a new word just for it. That’s how bad it was, so bland and bla bla bla bla. Except for it’s blah instead of bleh.
TARANJIT: Have to say it with a…
BHAVNEET: Bleh bleh bleh!
BHAVNEET: Any of you ever had Maggie? You know my pain. Never again.
TARANJIT: You were in pain?
BHAVNEET: Yes, I was in pain as I forced myself to slurp that disgustingness down. Is ramen better than that because everyone apparently loves ramen.
TARANJIT: But Maggi actually has like masala, you know flavor.
BHAVNEET: No it didn’t it was so bland.
TARANJIT: No, but it like said it had it. Ramen doesn’t say
BHAVNEET: But they could have been saying.
TARANJIT: Ramen is just noodles I think. I don’t think they have much else in it.
BHAVNEET: It’s an American version. So obviously it’s not gonna have flavor. So ramen tastes bad too. How do people eat it? Everyone’s always like, oh, ramen. I love ramen. So is it like Maggi where it’s like ew, it would be like disgusting.
TARANJIT: I’ve never liked seen ramen out of the package. I’ve only seen it on the shelf.
BHAVNEET: Maggi looks like a hard brick. Like, I’m like we’re gonna eat that. And then you put it in water and you’re like oh, it’s still looks like a soggy brick. Maggi is a soggy brick… Not the person!
TARANJIT: I was going to say, it sounds like you’re talking about a person.
BHAVNEET: Hey Maggie. Hey, Maggie. How’s it going? Oh, you look like a soggy brick. Oh that is so bad. Oh, man. Nobody trying Maggi.
TARANJIT: The person or…?
BHAVNEET: Yeah, no cannibalism. And no eating those brick noodles. Okay, that’s it. Just no. Boycott the Maggi.
TARANJIT: So I was saying Zaman, not ramen.
BHAVNEET: It sounded like zombie ramen, which is Maggi. Maggi, Maggi is zombie ramen. Whoever came up with that, Maggi is zombie ramen.
TARANJIT: Where is this person form?
BHAVNEET: Akhtar-er?
TARANJIT: He’s a New Yorker.
BHAVNEET: Wait, what?
TARANJIT: A New Yorker.
BHAVNEET: Yes, I know. I heard you.
TARANJIT: You were like, what?
BHAVNEET: I did, then I was like, wait, he’s from here?
TARANJIT: Yeah. I mean, we’re from here.
BHAVNEET: Yes. But our name
TARANJIT: Doesn’t sound like we’re from here.
BHAVNEET: Is one that I’ve never really come across before. You know, we don’t have a very stereotypical
TARANJIT: Never come across Akhtarer.
BHAVNEET: But he sounds more foreigner.
TARANJIT: So this guy was a young computer wizard in New York. And he basically created this website that would like find fares for people. And like Bart, like fine bargains for people to get flights for cheaper.
BHAVNEET: Like Cheap-O-Air.
TARANJIT: At the expense of the airline. So it’s kind of like doing this thing. Where you’re going A to B to C but not going to C. Skip-lagging.
BHAVNEET: Oh, so he was, he started this whole shenanigans.
TARANJIT: Yeah.
BHAVNEET: Did he get sued?
TARANJIT: Yeah.
BHAVNEET: You looked at me like, what? Point.
TARANJIT: This whole episode is about suing so obviously everyone got sued that we’re going to talk about.
BHAVNEET: Except for Maggi. Maggi is still a hard brick.
TARANJIT: She didn’t get sued.
BHAVNEET: Well, somebody should do that, those are the worst things ever.
TARANJIT: So this wasn’t very long ago when this case happened in 2014.
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That was five years ago that’s quite a long time ago.
TARANJIT: Not that long ago.
BHAVNEET: That was half a decade.
TARANJIT: So how new is skip lagging? Is this a thing that’s been happening for before that case? Or is it like a newer thing?
BHAVNEET: That people only suddenly now get the smart idea to…smart not smart? Because you’re going to end up paying
TARANJIT: That guy didn’t have to. That unnamed male passenger.
BHAVNEET: Yeah, unnamed male. But he lost his name. So I mean what else does he want? He lost his name, his dignity, like who are you? I’m unnamed male. Hello. Nice to meet you.
TARANJIT: My name is Unnamed.
BHAVNEET: Unnamed Male.
TARANJIT: In 2014,
BHAVNEET: He lost his name.
TARANJIT: No. Akhtarer, whatever it is. Got to keep his name.
BHAVNEET: Oh, good. Good for you. It’s very unique name.
TARANJIT: We know his name. Akhtarer.
BHAVNEET: Yes, I’m sorry I’m butchering your name.
TARANJIT: So this time, United Airlines and Orbitz filed a lawsuit against him.
BHAVNEET: Orbitz? They’re a third party booking company.
TARANJIT: Yeah. I guess because they’re also losing money. I guess.
BHAVNEET: They are pretty expensive.
TARANJIT: So basically, they just sued him for starting this website that was losing them money. And then 2015 the district court of Illinois made a decision.
BHAVNEET: You said Illinois?
TARANJIT: Illinois. What did I say?
BHAVNEET: Illinois.
TARANJIT: Oops.
BHAVNEET: Ill-a-noise.
TARANJIT: Illinois. What do you think the outcome was?
BHAVNEET: We so the airline sued him?
TARANJIT: Mmhmm.
BHAVNEET: He probably, eh.
TARANJIT: He probably eh?
BHAVNEET: Yeah, he kept, got to keep his er.
TARANJIT: Got to keep his er?
BHAVNEET: Yeah. Got to keep his name.
TARANJIT: Basically, the reasoning was Zaman, his like business. So the court’s reasoning was that Zaman didn’t live or do business in that city. So they couldn’t do anything about it. Not their jurisdiction.
BHAVNEET: Oh, that stinking jurisdiction, that brings up so many not fun memories. That’s, we don’t cover that. No.
TARANJIT: Oh, I thought you were going to finish your thought.
BHAVNEET: Oh, that was my thought.
TARANJIT: Okay, here’s, here’s a question for you. Would you ever do this, skip lag?
BHAVNEET: No, because then I would end up paying more because I guess, again, you had to go through, you’re going to get sued and go through all that trouble, then you gotta pay a lawyer to defend you. And you’re probably going to lose with, Now with all these whole things happening.
TARANJIT: So what if there was a situation? How, like, if you were to skip lag, hypothetically, how much money would you…
BHAVNEET: I would lose my name.
TARANJIT: How much money would you have to save to make you want to do this?
BHAVNEET: My ticket better be free.
TARANJIT: Then you would skip lag?
BHAVNEET: Yeah.
TARANJIT: Even if you were getting like 75% off?
BHAVNEET: No, because the thought of getting sued and having to go through that whole thing with a lawyer and going to court. And then you’re going to become this whole thing on the media and all this ramifications afterwards. No, you know my brain, I will start thinking of all these things that happen. And I like freak out about everything. So why would I even do that? I will just pay the money and go or I won’t go on the flight. Buy a cheaper ticket. Either pay for it. find cheaper one or don’t go.
TARANJIT: Well, airlines don’t have to worry about you.
BHAVNEET: Yeah, what about you? Would you do it? How much would you do?
TARANJIT: Would I do?
BHAVNEET: How much would you do? How much money?
TARANJIT: How much skiplagging would I do?
BHAVNEET: Yeah.
TARANJIT: Not much,
BHAVNEET: Well, if you did, how much would you have to save in order for you to do it?
TARANJIT: I don’t think I will do it either. Because I would be in the back of my head. Back of my brain. Back of my head.
BHAVNEET: Back of your head is the correct expression. Back of your brain? What in your eyesight?
TARANJIT: Yes.
BHAVNEET: That’s where your eyesight is.
TARANJIT: There be so much pressure in my eyes
BHAVNEET: You would be looking. So in the back of your brain. So you’d be looking this, you’d be seeing this. Okay.
TARANJIT: Yes.
BHAVNEET: Okay.
TARANJIT: I wouldn’t be able to forget about like, it would keep nagging me kind of like, you know.
BHAVNEET: Nagging at you.
TARANJIT: Yes, I will, like constantly keep thinking about it. Then I’d be stressed out.
BHAVNEET: Exactly.
TARANJIT: Then I wouldn’t be able to sleep, and then I won’t be happy.
BHAVNEET: So what we learned from this is we both have a conscious. Con-science. Con-science, we both have a con-science. So that’s a good thing. How many of you would, was is it called?
TARANJIT: Skip lag.
BHAVNEET: Skip lag, not jump lag, not run lag, not even walk lag. How many of you would skip lag? Let us know in the comments. I want to know, like, how do people think about that?
TARANJIT: Yeah.
BHAVNEET: I didn’t even think about that as a thing. Like, I’m like, okay, I want to go from here to here. The only option I think about is okay, if I want to go from point A to point B, Washington to Washington, my other option is either go directly or have some stops in between. I never thought about finding a flight from Washington to Washington that then connects somewhere else. I never even thought about that. Until now.
TARANJIT: Yeah, I didn’t even know it was a thing.
BHAVNEET: I didn’t either. So how many of you have thought about that? Or…?
TARANJIT: How many have you done it?
BHAVNEET: Okay, maybe you don’t want to openly for claim that you’ve done it. But how many of you like had thought about that? Like, I didn’t even think that was a like an option? Like I don’t even think about that.
TARANJIT: Do you think more people will start doing this or consider doing it now at this story is out?
BHAVNEET: But now that these stories are out, the companies are going to be more like sue sue sue.
TARANJIT: One will probably win finally.
BHAVNEET: Because now that is a thing that’s reoccurring, like it’s going to have more serious consequences now, don’t you think?
TARANJIT: I don’t know if this guy’s skip lagging website is illegal or not.
BHAVNEET: I mean, I don’t know.
TARANJIT: You mean what?
BHAVNEET: I mean, maybe. I mean, Maggi. Probably tastes bad like Maggis.
TARANJIT: Okay. So I was thinking when I was reading this article, what came through my mind was when we are going to San Francisco, right? And we’re sitting at the airport. I don’t remember which one.
BHAVNEET: Okay, I was going to say which airport?
TARANJIT: One of the airports we were sitting at. I remember… Actually, I think it was coming back. We’re in San Francisco Airport. We’re waiting to board Alaska. Right?
BHAVNEET: Which was actually turned out to be Virgin, which was the most confusing thing ever. I’m like, they scanned our ticket. They said, Yep, you’re good. And we’re walking to a Virgin plane. And I’m like, are we are we going home? Are we are we getting on the wrong plane? They said we were right. Like they…what? It was a very comfortable playing, though. But I was so confused the whole time.
TARANJIT: I know, until they started actually talking like Welcome to Alaska Airlines. I was like, are we on the right plane?
BHAVNEET: I walked in, their cabin is purple. It was so cool. It was so futuristic. Like we’ve been riding, flying on very bad airlines then because this was amazing. But, yes. Alaska. You thought about this at the San Francisco Airport.
TARANJIT: I thought about this skip lagging thing. Remember when we were sitting there and the airline before us that was boarding, airplane that was boarding before us. They’re like calling these names and noone came. Were they skip lagging?
BHAVNEET: That’s the thing. We’re like, were they somewhere else in the airport? Like eating or in the bathroom. Or like, how long do airlines wait for someone?
TARANJIT: That’s why I was like, at first when I heard all those people and then the flight closed and they didn’t make it I’m like, Oh, I feel bad for this person.
BHAVNEET: Yeah.
TARANJIT: But now that I’m thinking about, did they do it on purpose?
BHAVNEET: Yeah, like…
TARANJIT: Then I don’t feel bad.
BHAVNEET: Now that you think about it, there was quite a few people on that flight that were like, not there. But like someone came at the very end. And they’re like, Oh, my God, I was in the wrong spot or something.
TARANJIT: But all those people?
BHAVNEET: Yeah. I don’t think so. Like how hard the airlines try to get you on the flight if you’re like late.
TARANJIT: Well, if they already got your money.
BHAVNEET: Like how many times would an airline try? Like, I feel like this airline they tried a lot. They kept going was it? It was Alaska, right? They just kept on calling for like 15, 20 minutes. They just kept on going like this person, this person, looking for this person.
TARANJIT: So here’s another question for you. What if you’re on that flight, you’re already boarded and you’re sitting here here waiting because two people aren’t coming.
BHAVNEET: We had that once. They’re like, Oh, we were just waiting for a passenger.
TARANJIT: How mad would you be that your flight was being delayed because of skiplaggers.
BHAVNEET: Oh, I remember… Oh skiplaggers, I don’t know. Because like, that happened to us on one plane. I don’t remember which one. But like, they’re like, oh, we’re just waiting for one more passenger. I’m like, if they miss a flight, that’s their fault, unless they were like lost in the airport. Or like some airports are crazy. The LA one, their numbers were not consecutive. They’re like, oh, you want to go to gate number 24. Go in between 30 and two. And we’re like what? Why is it over there? What is this system? That made no sense.
TARANJIT: I know. It was very confusing.
BHAVNEET: First off, you’re only in this tiny section of the LAX airport. And I’m like, Wow, this is so tiny. Oh, we’re probably only one out of the 70 different corners of the airport. But then the numbers were not in order. They’re like, oh, yeah, over here. 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 25. Where’s 24? Hello. Is this like Hogwarts, just run through?
TARANJIT: That’s it? That’s your point. You kind of just like…
BHAVNEET: Yep. Then I started thinking about it. It was a pretty cool airport. The section we were in.
TARANJIT: What LAX?
BHAVNEET: Like their wall that we were staring at for like 40 minutes across from the seats were sitting in. It had things written in all these different languages like welcome. Wel… like in all these different languages.
TARANJIT: Yeah. And then the Boston Airport had all the facts written on the wall, right?
BHAVNEET: Yeah. I thought it was really cool. That was really nice. But in the back of my mind, in my eyesight. So when people say in the back of my mind, they really mean I was looking. Oh, snap. Epiphany. Yes, I can’t snap, put that in there. Oh, snap. Thank you. My sound effects lady. Thank you. So in my sight, I was. I was thinking the whole time about that whole like, incident that happened. Was it like mass shooting or something that was happening?
TARANJIT: In LAX?
BHAVNEET: Yeah. So I was like, Oh, my God, hopefully we’re in a safe part. Aah, get us on the plane. Get us out of here. LA seems very scary. Like, whoo it’s Los Angeles. So famous. But I don’t know if I would ever want to go because it’s like, I’d be scared for my life the whole time. Speaking of why be scared there? Guess what place got named the most dangerous city in the country?
TARANJIT: So close to home.
BHAVNEET: Hint. Worst drivers report of 2018 anyone?
TARANJIT: B-more.
BHAVNEET: Whoo. Baltimore.
TARANJIT: Why are you whooing them?
BHAVNEET: I don’t know.
TARANJIT: That’s not something to congratulate them on.
BHAVNEET: In the time that I’ve worked at my current job in Baltimore. The number of shootings that have happened, like a couple blocks away is scary. Like I’m not surprised, but still, oh my god. Like it, It was like Chicago, or Detroit. It was Detroit, right? Detroit, Baltimore. Like we would like keep interchanging, but we got to keep getting up there.
TARANJIT: It’s like we’re competing to stay in number one.
BHAVNEET: Yeah.
TARANJIT: That is not something you want to stay number one at.
BHAVNEET: I mean, our harbor has been having crazy issues in the past year, like people getting mugged all the time going to the harbor.
TARANJIT: It used to be like, Baltimore was bad, but the Harbor was fine.
BHAVNEET: Yeah.
TARANJIT: But now it’s like
BHAVNEET: It’s been infiltrated. It’s, it’s bad. Like, I remember like, like, people would go there from… that went to the school. And someone got mugged. They were there with their family. And they got attacked by these group of people who like stole their stuff. It was like, Oh, my God. And we went to the harbor once. Remember that? That was so scary. And there was just a person on the side asking for changing and we’re just like, no, don’t hurt me. Run away, speed walk. I can’t see you. I don’t speak English. Keep going.
TARANJIT: Yeah, that was scary.
BHAVNEET: Why did we even go down there?
TARANJIT: I don’t know why we thought it was such a great idea.
BHAVNEET: Yeah, we’re like, oh, we have a day off. Let’s go to the harbor. First off, I don’t even enjoy going there because it’s all water stuff. And I can’t swim.
TARANJIT: Oh, we wanted to go the museum.
BHAVNEET: Yeah.
TARANJIT: And it was at the harbor.
BHAVNEET: But Baltimore was very scary.
TARANJIT: We went there once. I’m not going back again. So on something you’re talking about earlier, before we went to this side street, coming back onto the main road.
BHAVNEET: I mean, we did end up getting lost trying to get to the harbor. Remember that? We ended up in some back alley. And then we’re like, oh, this is sketchy.
TARANJIT: I was talking figuratively with your story.
BHAVNEET: I know you were, I know you were but that literally happened. And we’re like, oh my god, there’s a dumpsters back here. Where are we? We’re in the trash pit. Like how did we end up here?
TARANJIT: Yeah. That was bad.
BHAVNEET: And then we took like a 10 minute detour just to get back to where we started. And then we went the right way. And it kind of started raining. And we were like, why are we here?
TARANJIT: At least it was fun, though.
BHAVNEET: It was. But not getting there. That was not fun.
TARANJIT: But then getting back from there were like, oh, why didn’t we go this way?
BHAVNEET: Yeah, why did we do this crazy way?
TARANJIT: Going back with so much easier.
BHAVNEET: Yeah. Thank you for your directionality.
TARANJIT: You’re better at directionality.
BHAVNEET: I know. I know.
TARANJIT: So thanks to you we got last.
BHAVNEET: Uh. Thanks to us we made it there. Somehow. Some way.
TARANJIT: I forget what I wanted to say.
BHAVNEET: We were on the side street and we made back to the main road.
TARANJIT: Yes. But what was my topic back to the main room?
BHAVNEET: I have no idea. We’re talking about suing.
TARANJIT: Oh, you’re talking about airlines. Not airlines, airplanes.
BHAVNEET: Airbuses.
TARANJIT: Airports.
BHAVNEET: Airbuses.
TARANJIT: Airports, and how you’re talking about different airports. I was watching Jimmy Fallon. And I didn’t know this was a thing because we took Jet Blue going. Apparently Jet Blue is known for being delayed
BHAVNEET: It is?
TARANJIT: Apparently.
BHAVNEET: But, we weren’t delayed.
TARANJIT: Because he made a joke about how, at least there on time for once.
BHAVNEET: Really? We weren’t delayed both the times we went.
TARANJIT: We got there sooo early.
BHAVNEET: Yeah. So we weren’t delayed. Okay. I don’t care. Like we weren’t delay. I don’t know why. They say that. Maybe like the larger flights? I don’t know.
TARANJIT: We flew a larger flight across the country.
BHAVNEET: Yeah. Exactly. I don’t know. But their service was great. They gave us great snacks. Like when we went on a different airline who shall remain unnamed, across the country. (whispers name) Airlines. Talking about you. They didn’t give us anything. And then here on Jet Blue. They’re like they gave sacks and then at the end I’m pretty sure they’re like anybody else want more?
TARANJIT: I was surprised they gave us a snack on the one-hour flight.
BHAVNEET: Yeah, that’s what I was like, What? Like this other airplane. (whispers their name) Airlines didn’t give us anything for the six hour flight across the country. Not even like a small pack of like they used to get like pretzels or nuts. Obviously nuts is a big thing. But like, pretzels. Anything! Nope. Nothing.
TARANJIT: And you know how most airlines are like, Oh, you want soda? Let me pour it in a cup and give you this much. They gave us the entire can!
BHAVNEET: I know. It’s like what? I get this whole thing? Just for me. Oh my gosh. Thank you.
TARANJIT: Yeah.
BHAVNEET: That’s so kind.
TARANJIT: So I don’t know what other people think about it. But I like those two airlines.
BHAVNEET: Yeah, I enjoyed it. Well I mean, maybe because we’ve been flying I guess not so great airlines. And now we finally splurged on a nicer airline.
TARANJIT: They were cheaper, too.
BHAVNEET: I know. It was so weird. That’s the only reason we splurge. Okay, so we didn’t really splurge. They splurged us. That doesn’t make any sense. But okay. Maggie.
TARANJIT: Yeah.
BHAVNEET: Why? That was not that funny. But then you made me laugh. Your laugh is what made me laugh. So that was what was truly funny.
TARANJIT: I have a couple more questions for you.
BHAVNEET: I thought you were going to say a couple more laughs for you coming. Wait.
TARANJIT: I mean, a laugh could come in there. Prepare your laugher.
BHAVNEET: It’s a… it’s primed.
TARANJIT: I meant to say laughter.
BHAVNEET: Well, I meant that makes more sense. Prepare your laugher. The one which makes you laugh. So my diaphragm?
TARANJIT: Yeah, prepare it.
BHAVNEET: All right, ready diaphragm?
TARANJIT: I meant to say laughter, but laugher came out.
BHAVNEET: But that makes more sense. So it’s okay. It was nice to be.
TARANJIT: I gotta stop my laugher.
BHAVNEET: Her laugher is one of those like windup toys and goes on and on. And then when you think it’s done, it had a little more spurt going, It was like, Uhhh…That is how they sound. I guess. Speaking of. Apparently, I laugh weird.
TARANJIT: When you’re slow moed. If you slow mo your voice its like… aaahuh.
BHAVNEET: More like, ah, ah, ah.
TARANJIT: Yeah.
BHAVNEET: So, look for that comp… compilation. Is that how you say it? Of just my laughters because apparently, in one episode, I have like at least 10 different types of laugh. I like to mix it up and I like to be different. Keep you guys on your toes. Because you never know what kind of kind is going to come next.
TARANJIT: Just slow mo-ing our voices.
BHAVNEET: You should try that once. It’s so funny. It sounded like we were drunk. Like super drunk. Like I was hammered. A she was like she just drank one. One glass. One shot. I don’t know what they’re called. One alcohol beverage.
TARANJIT: Yeah.
BHAVNEET: I was hammered. Like I took a hammer and I beat that brain. In the back of my head in my eyesight. Actually, whichever one controls my mouth because I was like, annnddddd thhheeenn…
TARANJIT: That sounds like you’re sleepy.
BHAVNEET: I’m drunk. Except for that sounded like I was…
TARANJIT: Tired. Like you’re yawning and in the middle of yawning and tired.
BHAVNEET: Trying to be the sloths from the MVA in Zootopia,
TARANJIT: I finally remembered the title. Remember when I tried to guess it, but it wouldn’t come to me?
BHAVNEET: But you remember Nangi.
TARANJIT: It’s kind of hard to forget.
BHAVNEET: Yes, you’re welcome you guys for now, you know, the truth of why she is named Nangi.
The more you know.
TARANJIT: Okay, are we back on the main road yet?
BHAVNEET: No! You guys can watch that movie again just for that scene. Or maybe I’ll just I’ll just put the clip the link to the clip of that scene on our website. So you guys can enjoy that. Nangi. Knowing what it truly means. She is naked. Hello naked. For sure.
TARANJIT: For sure I am.
BHAVNEET: Is your laugher ready?
TARANJIT: Yes.
BHAVNEET: Let’s get back on the main road.
TARANJIT: So back to skip lagging. I have two more questions for you.
BHAVNEET: I thought you had two last time.
TARANJIT: Two left. I had two at that point. And then I have more questions. And now these are your last two. Unless you spark my brain to think of another one.
BHAVNEET: I’m gonna spark your brain? Oh my god. Are you like a lighter? I need some flint. Oh my god. How many of you have had to use those flint lighters for like science class for like the Bunsen burners? Those are terrible. Like I could never get them to work. I always got the ones…Yeah, I always got the ones that were like super worn out. So then you like ee ee ee. That was not laughter that was me trying to make flint noises. Ee Ee Ee.
TARANJIT: If you slow it down, it probably sounds like…
BHAVNEET: Ee. Eeeeee. E.
TARANJIT: Sounds like my horn.
BHAVNEET: Yes. Anybody have a Toyota Corolla? Does your horn sound dainty? Or is it just her? Because her horn totally sounds like, “Excuse me ma’am. Sir. Pardon me.”
TARANJIT: But move. The person behind me is like, “But MOVE!”
BHAVNEET: That’s the person behind you. Like, “MOVE!” And your like, “Please, move it. Hellooo. Gooo. Stop looking at your phone. Chaapad” That’s what it looked like I was doing.
TARANJIT: Putting your hand like this.
BHAVNEET: Actually, it reminded me of the um…you don’t watch this show, but in the Flash, if any of you watch that show because I totally love that show, started with the Arrow, but then the Flash kind of builds off, but the evil the reverse Flash…
TARANJIT: Spoiler. If you’re gonna mess it up.
BHAVNEET: I’m not.
TARANJIT: Okay, never mind.
BHAVNEET: Unsproiler. Spoiler.
TARANJIT: You put spoiler alert together as splert.
BHAVNEET: Unsproiler of the reverse Flash. It reminds me of him and his hand like shaking super fast. If any of you watch it. I mean the first episode or season is already gone so I mean, you should have seen it by now. If not go find it somewhere and watch it. But yeah, his hand moved really fast. That’s what I felt like I was doing trying to hit your fake horn and yeah. Not thapad. Anyone. But ehuhuh.
TARANJIT: Sounds like you’re vibrating.
BHAVNEET: Yea. Cause his hand was vibrating.
TARANJIT: Or earthquakes happening, and you were like…
BHAVNEET: Like really fast. That’s how an earthquake happens.
TARANJIT: Your whole body is shaking. So you’re like…
BHAVNEET: I don’t think that’s how earthquakes work.
TARANJIT: I mean, we had one.
BHAVNEET: I will. Okay. Our mom and I were in the basement. So we didn’t feel anything.
TARANJIT: Really far down that side road.
BHAVNEET: Yep. At first I was like, No, we are in a basement. Next door. What do you mean really far down that side road? The alley?
TARANJIT: Yes.
BHAVNEET: No, we weren’t really far underground in the alley. We were in a house…
TARANJIT: Well, if you were in the basement. You’re not going to really feel it.
BHAVNEET: Yeah, we didn’t feel anything and you guys came back or like we came back. Not you guys. We came back and you’re like, Oh my god, the whole chair moved.
TARANJIT: No. This is what happened. I was sitting on the daybed. And it starts shaking. Right. But I thought a truck drove by. Because you know, like when a big 18 Wheeler drives by our house shakes a little?
TARANJIT: But like the furniture would not move?
TARANJIT: No, no. But it was like a vibration type thing. So I was like, Oh, did a truck drive by because it was like, not that, like hard. But like the daybed moved slightly a little like not that much. Just a little. So, I thought a truck drove by and we’re just like…
BHAVNEET: That’s one strong truck. Our poor house must be super weak. If it moves the whole daybed. Inside.
TARANJIT: And it was done after like two seconds. I don’t even know it was an earthquake until the news was like, Oh, we just had an earthquake and I was like, that was an earthquake?
BHAVNEET: Well Dang. Our poor house. It withstood it.
TARANJIT: But like DC got it, cuz the monument.
BHAVNEET: Yeah. Did they finally fix that? Is it fixed now?
TARANJIT: Yea. But I think they’re finishing renovation in terms of elevator wise.
BHAVNEET: Okay, so the thing. The little thing around it is…
TARANJIT: External monument is fine. I think internally they’re upgrading.
BHAVNEET: Oh, yeah, because when we went it was good. It was like no more construction things around it.
TARANJIT: But I think they’re just updating inside.
BHAVNEET: It was really nice to look at at night. You guys should go look at the monument at night. When the lights are on. It’s so pretty. I was surprised my phone took a good enough picture to see it. But it was so nice.
TARANJIT: Your phone is really good at taking pictures in the dark.
BHAVNEET: Yeah, that’s really weird. But I’m glad.
TARANJIT: So can I ask you this question now?
BHAVNEET: I guess so. Let’s go step on the main road. Don’t get hit by a truck,
TARANJIT: Leave it on the main road for a little bit. Let me ask you this question, then you can detour back over that way.
BHAVNEET: Maybe we want to go this way.
TARANJIT: Or you can go that way.
BHAVNEET: You said that way. I said this way.
TARANJIT: We’re gonna stay here first. Alright. So my first question is, how many people do you think actually care how much a flight costs? Or do people really care?
BHAVNEET: I don’t know. Because people pay for really expensive flights? If they have the money, they’re like, whatever.
TARANJIT: Well. Comfort. Not just the price, but like, do they care more about the price or the airline they’re flying? And are they willing to sacrifice paying more to fly a specific airline?
BHAVNEET: I think so. Because people are like, I really like this airline. I like their service. I like whatever it is about this airline. I don’t care how much I pay for it. I feel like a lot of people are like that. But people like us who are like, I don’t have the money to afford to ticket.
TARANJIT: So would you if you found airline A not so good. Right? Airline B really good. You like this airline. But airline A has a cheaper price. Which one would you board?
BHAVNEET: It depends how much cheaper?
TARANJIT: How much cheaper would airline A have to be for you to board them?
BHAVNEET: I mean, I would really want to go for the better airline because we’ve been on some sucky ones. And I do not like it.
TARANJIT: So would you board airline A if it was the shorter flight?
BHAVNEET: Yes, there’s a there’s a higher chance that I would. Like…
TARANJIT: How long would the flight had to be for you to stop considering A to get on B?
BHAVNEET: If we are going like past halfway across the country. I want a different flight. I cannot do that. For like for us across the country, the US, is like six hours. So if it’s more than three, I’d rather have something else. I can’t do that. Like I did that six-hour flight on a sucky airline. I cannot do that again. What about you?
TARANJIT: What about me what?
BHAVNEET: Answer your own question.
TARANJIT: I feel like personally, I always just look for the good airline. And then I try to find between the airlines I want to ride and then find cheaper between those. That’s how I found flights to San Francisco. I’m like this and this are the airlines I want to ride.
BHAVNEET: Yeah.
TARANJIT: And then I only look for those.
BHAVNEET: Yeah, I mean, like now that it’s like I can kind of more afford it myself. Like the tickets. I would totally be like, I want this airline. Or this airline. Like, these are my options. Give me something good.
TARANJIT: Like when we were going to San Francisco and United kept showing up, and uh American I think actually, I was like, nope, keep scrolling.
BHAVNEET: Yeah. Is there a way to exclude those?
TARANJIT: There is.
BHAVNEET: But we get the joy of experiencing American soon enough.
TARANJIT: Yeah. Our first time on American. Not ready. Even though it’s not gonna be a long flight. So maybe…
BHAVNEET: Again, halfway across the country. That’s our threshold. And that’s what it’s going to be.
TARANJIT: What was it is like three hours right?
BHAVNEET: Yup. There you go. That’s it.
TARANJIT: We’ll see how that goes.
BHAVNEET: Get on Alaskan
TARANJIT: Because that’s a longer flight. All the way from California back across.
BHAVNEET: I mean, we’ve done that a couple of times. So… Arizona. California. You know. But anybody been on a flight that’s like almost a day long?
TARANJIT: We’re about to.
BHAVNEET: Yes. Anybody ever done that? Please tell us like what do you do to survive like a 22…23 hour like fly time? Let us know in the comments. Because we need to know.
TARANJIT: We need to prepare to make this flight more comfortable and more bearable.
BHAVNEET: Just in general, how do you make a long flight more enjoyable, because we have not been on many flights. So I don’t know my neck is in pain all the time. It’s so uncomfortable. I need to know how to survive a plane ride where the back of my head’s not going to be very good.
TARANJIT: Back your head or more like your neck.
BHAVNEET: Oh my neck was so cramped when we went to India
TARANJIT: And my legs. like I can’t stretch.
BHAVNEET: More so than my legs, my neck was like in so much pain. The airplane we took like they say it was like so great. It was so uncomfortable. I think any great flight no matter what it is will become uncomfortable after a certain amount flying time.
TARANJIT: Well, the seats, they are only gonna be so much comfortable because there’s only so much room that they can move. The comfort mainly comes from the actual seat. Upholstery, I guess, as opposed to the shape of the seat, you know? Like which way it’s angled. And because you can’t really move it that much if you are in economy.
BHAVNEET: This is where you need to be in first class where you can lay down, or you do like that one movie where you tell everyone to pick up their feet and just lay down and sleep. Whatever movie that was. She was like, all right, everyone pick up your feet. And they’re like, what? So they all pick up their feet. And then she laid down in the little space between the seat got her blanket, she’s like good night.
TARANJIT: Badmash company.
BHAVNEET: Yeah.
TARANJIT: We just started and then we turned it off.
BHAVNEET: But that was hilarious. Smart, but like nobody would actually let you do that.
TARANJIT: Well, we’re all sitting in one row. So family.
BHAVNEET: No, no, like the airline would not let you do that.
TARANJIT: Why would you want to lay on that floor?
BHAVNEET: I would not.
TARANJIT: Speaking of which, this is going off topic, but I heard I think British Airways was trying out not cleaning between every single flight
BHAVNEET: Eww. Is that what British people do? Do you shower every other day? Every after every two days? Like what is this?
TARANJIT: I don’t know if it was like, Oh, it was a one hour flight does like we will take another one hour flight and then clean or something like that. I didn’t really read it. But…
BHAVNEET: I feel like they should still go through and do a sweep like pick up everything and like that’s disgusting.
TARANJIT: I think they’re talking about the whole like wiping down part
BHAVNEET: That’s still disgusting. You don’t know who was sitting there, who was sick or who was disgusting. And, ew-uh. Now I don’t want to sit in any airline. See like, who was sitting here first?
TARANJIT: Bring your own sanitizing wipe. Like people do in the stores with their carts.
BHAVNEET: I feel like that at some point like people are just over doing it.
TARANJIT: I mean, you need some…
BHAVNEET: You need some definitely.
TARANJIT: Bacteria.
BHAVNEET: Some bacteria are good for you. Like you have bacteria on your skin right now. Oh my god.
TARANJIT: Oh my god.
BHAVNEET: Oh my god. Newsflash. But…
TARANJIT: The stomach has so much.
BHAVNEET: Some of them are good for you. They’re good bacteria. Like your intestines have bacteria in them. And they’re good. They help break down the stuff. And the waste and like body stuff like a creepy spider body stuff.
TARANJIT: Nice hand movements.
BHAVNEET: Thank you. If only you guys can see the back of your mind. Use that to see what I’m doing. Creepy crawling.
TARANJIT: We talked a lot about airlines. We’ve switched a different way. There’s another suing story I found. But it’s not about airline. So basically, there’s this mayor in an Arizona city, who is suing…
BHAVNEET: Is he an unnamed male also?
TARANJIT: I mean, I feel you can find his name if it says mayor of… what’s the city name? Nogales. N-O-G-A-L-E-S. It’s at the bottom of Arizona, closer to the Mexican border. And there’s the same name place on the other side.
BHAVNEET: So it got cut in half?
TARANJIT: I guess.
BHAVNEET: Oh, that’s sad.
TARANJIT: So there’s this border wall that runs through the like the towns…
BHAVNEET: The bordered town.
TARANJIT: Yeah. And basically what they did was they had razor wire on it at the top. But they came back and like added so much more razor wire that it’s like, all the way up from the top to the bottom covered in razor wire.
BHAVNEET: Do a lot of people try and cross at that point, I guess?
TARANJIT: I don’t know. But this Mayor wants to sue the federal government for adding this extra razor wire. Because his reasoning is that he’s scared the children on this side, you know the U.S. side, were going to touch it by accident and get hurt. Or there’s houses that are so close to that wall, like people live right there.
BHAVNEET: Yeah, someone could accidentally… but like do a lot of people cross at that point? Is it really necessary that you need that much wire? I mean, speaking of, our president tried to go the national emergency route to give money for his wall project, I guess that’s his way of being like, Okay, I won’t shut down the government again. But give me the money. You know, I absolutely adore California for this because they totally outright oppose him on everything he says. They are like you’re wrong. We’re not doing that. Was it like their mayor?
TARANJIT: Of Arizona?
BHAVNEET: No. No. No. California. That’s like, no president is wrong.
TARANJIT: I think so. But California has been kind of wanting to be their own place for a long time,
BHAVNEET: I know.
TARANJIT: I guess.
BHAVNEET: Yea. At one point, didn’t they want to be their own country? They were like we’re going to become our own thing. I mean, they have enough population to be their own country.
TARANJIT: Yeah, they were gonna… weren’t they gonna break up into like North, South, and … Middle?
BHAVNEET: Something like that. I don’t know. But like, wasn’t there a thing a while ago saying that California might eventually break off from the US?
TARANJIT: Yeah.
BHAVNEET: Because they’re on the plate lines or something. And it might just break off and float away or something? Would it would it break off exactly at the border lines of the state? Just and all of Oregon remains intact. All of like Arizona, Nevada, remain, and it’s just California that goes eekkk off.
TARANJIT: It would be so funny if it actually happened like that. But it won’t. It would take a part of other states or lose part of its state and then kind of go.
BHAVNEET: What are the lines, the plate lines? Well they are obviously on plate lines because they get a lot of earthquakes. But if it happens in the state, then part of the state would break off.
TARANJIT: So Lufthansa sued this passenger. Passenger won.
BHAVNEET: Unnamed male.
TARANJIT: United Airlines and Orbitz…
BHAVNEET: He lost his name.
TARANJIT: …sued the guy who started that website. The guy who started the website won.
BHAVNEET: So it seems like the people who are in the wrong technically are winning here. Isn’t that how it always works?
TARANJIT: So this Mayor who’s wants to sue the federal government if they don’t take some of this off? Do you think he would win?
BHAVNEET: Well, seeing the trend? Maybe? I don’t know. I mean, how much wire is it? Like is it an excessive amount of wire then yeah, probably.
TARANJIT: He said…he was comparing it to what he’s like, this kind of wire seems like something that will be in a war zone, or in a prison.
BHAVNEET: Yeah, then that’s excessive. I mean, do a lot of people try and cross at that point, I feel like we have one of the most like protected borders, not protect, like, we’re very protective about that border, because like a lot of people want to try and cross that one. Whereas the other side of our country is like no border wall. No, nothing. It’s an open border, because who wants to cross from Canada into the US or from US into Canada. Like, if you wanted to, take your passport and walk across. That’s the longest in the world like unmanned border. Between the US and Canada. So on one side, we have a border that were like super trying to protect and then on the other side, we’re like, Hey, we don’t need anything. There. Take that one and put it on the other side. What was that?
TARANJIT: You made a noise, so I copied.
BHAVNEET: That was your floor. Not your five. That was your four.
TARANJIT: You forgot a letter.
BHAVNEET: I think he stole the L.
TARANJIT: You ate the L.
BHAVNEET: Lufthansa took it. The unnamed man took it because he didn’t have a name. So he needed a letter. There you go. He stole the L. So now you can’t say anything.
TARANJIT: L. Like this.
BHAVNEET: You can’t say anything with the letter L in it. Because he took it. So I can’t say the letter. Oh man. I can’t say the etter.
TARANJIT: You can’t say the actual L.
BHAVNEET: Oh, the actua.
TARANJIT: Or you can’t say the sound?
BHAVNEET: Now you’re thinking about, was there an etters in that? That would be very hard.
TARANJIT: Can’t even say our last name. I can’t say
BHAVNEET: I mean people already say it really weird. Ath… Aflac. I mean Afac. That sounds so bad! All right, give it back unnamed man. You don’t get any L’s in your name, you’re unnamed. That’s how you yawn? People usually do this. They yawn then they have their hands on their mouth. You put one hand over your mouth. and then you started tapping that hand?
TARANJIT: I’m telling it to stop. Stop yawning
BHAVNEET: Don’t hit my mouth. Hit my hand.
TARANJIT: Wow, we went way off topic.
BHAVNEET: Isn’t that normal?
TARANJIT: With you? Yes.
BHAVNEET: Aww. I mean…
TARANJIT: You like taking the windy road instead of the side road.
BHAVNEET: Well, if you take a straight road, you’re gonna fall asleep. It’s so boring.
TARANJIT: That’s true.
BHAVNEET: It isn’t a road trip if you don’t take a detour. I mean, every time we go somewhere, we always end up taking at least one wrong turn so then you get a detour. It’s not a road trip if you don’t. A a lot of times when you were driving, we did that. We took a bunch of wrong turns.
TARANJIT: Your supposed to be my directions, but you don’t give them
BHAVNEET: Yes, I do.
TARANJIT: Correctly all the time.
BHAVNEET: I give really good directions. You’re just not good at following.
TARANJIT: Back to this, what we started with. I have another question for you.
BHAVNEET: Another one?
TARANJIT: You sparked by brain.
BHAVNEET: Flint. Eee, eee, eee. Oh, alright.
TARANJIT: That’s what a bunsen burner goes like.
BHAVNEET: Yeah, I hated Bunsen burners.
TARANJIT: I know you would never do this because you will not be able to handle all the stuff that goes into suing. But if you were to ever sue, what do you think he was sue for?
BHAVNEET: I just hear on the clock ticking in your room. It’s like…
TARANJIT: I like how your fingers are the clock.
BHAVNEET: Yeah, my fingers going with… I gotta keep the beat. Only, my finger only goes so far. Then I’m like… it’s stuck.
TARANJIT: You can’t be like, what was that show where she went in a clock?
BHAVNEET: Oh, something and the Big Comfy Couch. Molly.
TARANJIT: Molly.
BHAVNEET: Molly and the Big Comfy Couch. How many of you seen that show? Oh my gosh, we tried to do that. Like what she would do. She would lay on the ground and use her legs to do the clock motion. I could never do that. I don’t know if I was too fat or unflexible or what? But I couldn’t do it. You can find us on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook and Pinterest at Drive With Us podcast.
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